Reactions to the bracket

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While Pat and Gordon were pretty darn close in their predictions, nailing 31 of 32 teams and missing on Whitworth (UW-Eau Claire made it instead), it’s clear we’d grown accustomed to the committee being fairly predictable.

Perhaps it’s because there was only one West Coast team in the field, but whatever the reason, they were anything but this time around. The bracket has been revealed, and some curveballs have been thrown.

Ithaca at Mount Union, Redlands at St. John’s and Widener at Case Western Reserve were among the matchups we did not see coming. You can throw Olivet at Central in there too. With the proximity of so many of the teams, the committee’s matchups did not hold to the regions. For years they have not had to, but often they simply shake out that way. In Saturday’s first round, we’ll have an East Region team at a North, a North at a West in two different brackets and two South Region teams who could have been moved to the East playing each other. And then Redlands flying halfway across the country … but still Texas vs. Texas.

Without further ado, the floor is open for your reactions.

223 thoughts on “Reactions to the bracket”

  1. Good luck to all the teams. If I may be so bold, part of Mount Union’s success is because they respect their opponent and take nothing for granted. What happened last year, last week or even the last play has no bearing on what happens next. I’m sure LK will have the team focused and ready to give their best effort Saturday against a great Ithaca program that has 7 Stagg Bowl appearances (and 3 championships).

  3. “I was just having a conversation with a former teammate of mine last week: that if MUC had to mentally and physically prepare for the likes of Hobart, RPI, SJF, IC, Cortland, etc every week (just look at Brockport’s schedule every year in the East), they would get ‘dinged up’ here and there and it would wear on them.”
    —

    Did I miss the fantasy font? Just the latest in alibis in why the East hasn’t won a Stagg since …. when? Or made the Stagg this millennium.

    Shoot, the OAC even sent its No. 2 team East a few years back and they won the region. And look what’s happened when East teams have played the West in the semis — they added “monkeystomp” to the Western lexicon but not in a good way.

    The idea that an East team can’t win the Stagg because they beat each other up is outrageous. There might be balance in the East but that doesn’t mean elite quality.

  4. I like that Mount will hopefully get to see some different foes this time around…I disagree that the OAC is overrated as a whole..this year, I think so..just not as strong…in past years, pretty darn strong….Cap took us all the way to the wire the last two years in the tourney…and I say if the bracket was different, last year’s Cap team could have given UWW a run of its own if they had met up…I still dont think its out of the possibility of Cap giving UWW a game in round 1 but I think would take an extraordnary defensive effort on Caps part..and probably some help from UWW too….

    Id love nothing more than to sit here and debate all the MUC comments made on here…some of them valid, some of them rediculous – but I believe the play of the 07 version of the Purple Raiders this playoff season is about to do all the talking that is required…One game, one opponent at a time…

  7. i think this is the best mount team yet – it will be shocking if they don’t win it. but as in any sport, crazy stuff happens. that’s what makes it fun to follow the games.

  8. All I have to say about the selections and brackets is this…quit your whining! Whoever it is, Mount will meet you in Salem and then show us what you got and see if it’s good enough to win the title!

    ~Roll Raiders Roll~

  9. As a new fan to D3 … nice to see spirited commentary and support for each school/region as the play-offs begin. Might be time to talk about the HCAC and the success this year of both Franklin and Mt.St.Joe. Franklin goes 9-1 back-to-back seasons – and overcomes the snub from a year ago to win conference and get in. MSJ deservedly gets in on 9-1 season – perhaps based on some of their history. The HCAC gets 2 in the tourney. Franklin’s lone loss — by a missed 2-point conversion AT Wabash, MSJ loses at home to Franklin. Could be a new conference to at least keep an eye on in the future ! Go GRIZ !!

  10. and for the record, mount beat #9 at the time ohio northern 44-0 on the road, and #12 capital (once ranked as high as 5th) 37-0 on the road. they also beat baldwin-wallace, once ranked 10th, 35-0. and it beat john carroll, once ranked 24th, 53-0, on the road.

    i think people tend to underestimate the ability of the teams mount plays just because mount beats them so badly. i just wish capital hadn’t had so many injuries; otherwise i think it would throw a scare into whitewater next week.

  12. No doubt this may well be the best Mount Union team but the Bombers have put it together and the way they are playing, I will not be suprised if this game is much closer than many think.

    And make no mistake, Fisher is a real contender. It’ll be fun.

  13. repete – “elite quality” is certainly an interesting phrase (or an oxymoron) given that we’re talking about student-first D3 football!! “The idea that an East team can’t win the Stagg because they beat each other up is outrageous. There might be balance in the East but that doesn’t mean elite quality”.

    My third grade son is far superior on the basketball court than his little buddies………that doesn’t make him “elite quality” relative to the competition (now, on the other hand, if he turns out to be truly “elite quality”, he will get a D1 scholarship and save his appreciative father $250,000 in college expenses!!).

    My dream………After Mount wins the Stagg, they play the D2 champion to start next year (or finish this year) and take them to the woodshed like App State did to Michigan earlier in the year. In scheduling Michigan, App State “scheduled up” more than the Mount would in playing the D2 champ. Mount……make all of us D3 fanatics proud and go for it. You’ve got nothing to lose and would make an entire nation of D3 diehards very proud. What the heck is a Chadron State anyway?!

  15. Chadron State is in Nebraska and is a member of the Rocky Mountain Athletic Conference. You can almost see the Rockies from Chadron! 😉

  16. Just two commments to a couple posts:

    WarhawkAlum05 said:

    “I think UWW really got screwed by this bracket. At first glance, the UW-Whitewater Bracket is easily the most difficult, and I agree with those that have said MUC’s bracket is a cakewalk.”

    FYI-maybe you should recheck out the ratings and ask yourself who has the better draw. I looked at the last poll (The last one out as of today) and here is what I see when it comes to ranked teams in each region. Sorry if I have omitted any ranked team.

    MU Regional (3 ranked teams)
    1) MU
    6) St John Fisher
    14) New Jersey

    Central Regional (6 Ranked Teams)
    3) St John’s
    4) Central
    16) Bethel
    19) UW Eau Claire
    22) St Norbert
    24) Redlands

    UWW Regional (4 Ranked Teams)
    2) UWW
    9) Wabash
    17) Capital
    18) Franklin

    Wash and Jeff Regional (6 Ranked Teams)
    5) Mary Hardin Baylor
    7) Wesley
    8) Washington and Jefferson
    11) Salisbury
    13) Trinity TX
    15) Muhlenberg

    Maybe UWW should feel fortunate to have had Central/St. John’s and Bethel moved out of their regional. In my opinion – Looks like UWW has one of the easier routes to the semis!

    ——————————————————————————————–
    Nasedo Says:

    “Central’s a paper tiger, it’s a Bethel – St. John’s rematch for all the marbles in the West”

    I know comparative scoring is not always the best, but it is a gauge. I would like you to check out Central’s score against common opponent St. Thomas. Now compare it to their scores in relation to St. Thomas. Appears that Central handled St. Thomas at least as well if not better than either team. Also interesting how Bethel lost to IIAC middle of the pack team Buena Vista.

    GO DUTCH

  17. WOW wildcatfan I can’t believe you said what you did — If UWW played MHB 10 times in a row this year, UWW would win 9 of the 10 games. UWW Defense came out and just dominated. Your two running backs didn’t get squat that day. Is it because your team was forced into turning over the ball –it wasn’t just one bad day – every game would be a bad day. UWW defense forces other teams to make mistakes. This past week – 8 turnovers in favor of UWW. Last week UWW forces UW-Stout to make 6 turn overs. Week before that vs Stevens Point – more inteceptions and more fumbles. I have been to all of the games last year and this year – home and away. UWW defense can play against anyone. They are hard to run on and hard to pass on. When the big games happen – 18 defensive player show up as a group.
    Were you at the Whitewater game — UWW defensive Line just dominated your offensive line — Especially in the first half. The defensive line and LB stopped your running game and forced your QB to throw the ball. He doesn’t have a great arm — so most of his passes were under thrown and was hurried or forced to throw off balance or before he got hit.

    Your running backs didn’t have a field day against UWW because they finally had to play a real team.

    You need to look at the records of all of the teams MHB plays — small schools and not too many of them have a winning record. Need to read or get your fact correct — check out each teams on MHB schedule — as a group they have a losing record. YES check it out.

    Now, MHB may not be as bad as they were on that day in Whitewater but they are not as good as you think they are. I was at the game and I sure saw a dominating team have a great game. I think the better team (UWW) forced the turn overs — it wasn’t just a MHB bad day — and on another day it would have been different — I don’t think so.

    UWW has played a number of ranked teams – La Crosse at the time was 6th, Eau Claire was ranked in the top 15 or so , Stevens Point was in the top 15 or so and MHB was ranked #2. So UWW deserves some respect — they have played some of the better teams in the country.

    As far as MUC — they are the champs and they are the gold standard — don’t take anything away from their program. They don’t win year in a year out because they have a weak conference. Ohio area has a great history of producing some very good football players. MUC has to be respected.

    They have very good athletes and they show up each and every game. They too force other teams to make mistakes and turn over the ball.

    I saw it last year in the Championship game in Salem. UWW vs MUC. MUC did make UWW make mistakes. My hats off to them — don’t let anyone in the country say they have a cake walk. You have to beat them before you can say your better

    Now I am a former Warhawk football 3 year starter – (many years ago) so for me to say MUC is the gold standard it has to be true. All of us other teams in the USA are just trying to beat them one time. Facts are facts — I say if your program is good – you have to beat them 2 to 3 times in a 5 year period. They you be considered the top dog. Right now – MUC is the top dog — we are all trying to get the opportunity to play them in Salem. Let the best teams get there — Good Luck.

  18. Ralph – Honest opinion…..how would Mount Union do against a Chadron State, Grand Valley or a Youngstown State?

  19. Prairie View says…
    “but let’s face the FACTS, Mount Union is far closer to the teams like Wabash, Case Western, etc. than they are Ithaca, RPI, etc.”

    Distance to Alliance:
    Rochester, NY 283.7
    Ithaca, NY 300.9
    Geneva, NY 318.2
    Oneonta, NY 401.5
    Ewing, NJ 415.1
    Rensselaer, NY 478.8
    Milton, MA 626.2

    Compared to some of teams from the traditional “North” region in this tournament:
    Cincinnati, OH 271.2
    Wabash, IN 300.9
    Olivet, MI 309.9
    Franklin, IN 355.6
    Naperville, IL 438.5
    Mequon, WI 518.9

    I’ll give you that Case is closer than Ithaca, but Wabash is not. And as for RPI, North Central isn’t “far closer.” (All mileage found using mappoint.msn.com with the “Shortest Distance” option)

  20. WarhawkAlum05 I would trade regions with you in a minute this year. Obviously you have little to no clue. And also, feel fortunate the Capital team you are playing is without it’s starting QB and best WR or I would give them a fighting chance. I would think considering the circumstances you should expect to win that game by 30 to 40 points.

  21. i think widener lucked out by drawing the case matchup – i shudder to think what mount union would have done to them in alliance in the 1st round, maybe now at least we’ll get the shit beat out of us on national tv haha – don’t sleep on the pride, their defense is a LOCKDOWN squad and they can turn the game around in the blink of an eye. That coupled with the fact that Case hasn’t played in the playoffs in what 15 years?… Should be very interesting – don’t sleep on Widener, the Pride will make these playoffs very interesting – NOT JUST IN THE FIRST ROUND (Though, I’m still upset that they couldn’t have just been given a 7 seed, not have the forge through the bracket as an 8 seed)

  22. WOW…….on this sacred day where we remember all of those who have served (or are serving) our country as well as all of those brave men and women who sacrificed their lives for our freedom…….let’s keep Division 3 football brackets and comments about “heads up a$$es”, in proper perspective at least through the close of the observation of Veterans Day tomorrow.

    We’re extremely fortunate to be sitting in our warm homes, surrounded by our loved ones, with full bellies, debating the inane while our brothers and sisters are being brought home in boxes. I know, I’ve lost a few family members and friends over the past few years. Let’s have fun but keep it all in perspective. Especially at this level (which we all love)……it is not life and death!! No need for name calling. Opinions are like a$$$$$es…….we’ve all got one!!

  24. I mean this in the nicest way possible, but some folks out here could really use a clue.

    SFFF82,
    It’s nice that you think so highly of the Empire 8, but “if MUC had to mentally and physically prepare for the likes of Hobart, RPI, SJF, IC, Cortland, etc every week ” they’d still run through the conference.

    I’d put the OAC’s top 5 up against anyone’s most years. The Empire 8 has really good depth too, so it’s no knock, but you really are kidding yourself if you believe Mount Union has any kind of weak conference slate. I see what you’re saying, the OAC’s other guys are overrated … I’d say they have their ups and downs like anyone else. If there were no Mount Union at the top, it would still be a pretty good conference.

    I don’t feel like looking up the stat right now, but OAC teams are something like 12-1 in the playoffs when you take away games they play against Mount Union over the past several years. In other words, no matter where you put a team from the OAC (see John Carroll, East Region, 2002), they keep on winning until Mount Union knocks them out.

    If you insist, I will look it up later in the week. And if your argument somehow becomes that the rest of the North Region is weak … I’ll just let the North Region folks handle that.

    Fisher kept it close on the scoreboard last year, but Mount Union ran for 378 yards and attempted only 14 passes. A lot of people think they did whatever they wanted to, i.e. they didn’t pass because they didn’t have to.

    Look, I’m with everyone here. No one likes to think of a team as super human. Mount Union is not that. They can be beaten. But I’ve observed D3football without a favorite team bias for several years now, and as glad as I am that Mount Union got Ithaca in the first round instead the 4-loss MIAA champ, I feel very comfortable saying that this is one of the best Mount Union teams ever, and anything less than a trip to Salem would involve an upset of monumental proportions.

    But hey, it’s D3 baby … we get to play it out. Best of luck to you …

  25. Widener fan(s),
    I also mean this in the nicest possible way, but you should heed your own advice and be thankful for the matchup you got. Look at the other 1 and 2 seeds you possibly could have been matched against.

    I really like what you guys did in scheduling this year, so I’m not going to sit here and knock you. But you also didn’t beat Wesley and you lost 41-0 to Rowan, a team that ended up losing 5 games. The NCWC win was nice.

    Teams with that kind of resume, in Pool C, would have been on the bubble at best.

    Widener did what it had to do to get the AQ, but please spare us the “no respect” and “slept on” stuff. The MAC was not a strong conference this year and Widener was not very dominant in it (the King’s and Lycoming scores jump out, among others)

    Frankly, with a winnable first round game and possibly another in the second, you should be thankful that you avoid UW-Whitewater half of the bracket you got placed in and avoided the fate that everyone else in the East will have to suffer: going through Mount Union.

    Widener made out pretty well. Perhaps as nicely as any 8 seed in memory, and I don’t see what being a 7 would have gotten you that this didn’t.

    The great thing about the playoffs is that you have to beat good teams to move on, and as Bob Berezowitz (retired UW-W coach) says, your reward for beating a good team is to play a better one next week.

    It’s got to be the most true test for great teams, since you not only need to play the game of your life once, you need to do it consistently for five weeks with no slip-ups.

  26. dukefinadv.

    Good evening!

    I must defer to the comparative scores that we see with the WIAC.

    I think that those D-2’s beat MUC by 14-20 points in most games.

    Chadron is top seed in the Southwest Region for the D-2 playoffs.

  27. Keith,

    I don’t know if the 12-1 for other OAC teams in the playoffs against everyone except Mount is exactly right, but I’m sure it is very close. The CCIW’s 11-11 record in the playoffs consists of 0-8 vs. Mount, 1-3 vs. other OAC teams, and 10-0 vs. everyone else! The OAC would not be the #1 (or #2, depending on year-to-year with WIAC) conference without Mount, but they would STILL be top 5.

  28. One thing I will add … even though I join in the banter, not always in the friendliest way, everyone’s opinion is welcome and appreciated. That’s what we’re here for.

    Some of you have a total grasp on how things work and are very informed, some are just learning. I’m not a huge fan of really opinonated people who are sharing blunt opinions formed without key pieces of information, but it happens. I remember what it was like being on a team when you were basically brainwashed/convinced that your team is good enough to beat anyone and the teams you’ve played are as good as they get.

    Since I spend the fall travelling the country, crunching numbers, etc., please believe me if I tell you they’re not; However, the beauty of football is that means nothing once the game kicks off. A “worse” team can beat a “better” team if it plays the right game on the right day. That’s the fun of the playoffs.

    And this year’s bracket looks like it’ll be as much fun as any in recent memory.

  29. Keith, thanks for all your comments. Earlier, you mentioned “3) UW-Eau Claire did pass Whitworth in the criteria, apparently. We’ll have to take a closer look to determine why.”

    Have you been able to determine why yet? A team that loses two D3 games (one to a 3-7 team) and doesn’t even win its conference getting the nod over a team that won the NWC (actually ran through it unblemished) and lost one D3 game to a team that won its conference and is heading towards the dance??? I believe comments about what the NWC has achieved in its short history in D3 have already been mentioned so I won’t repeat it. Oh, and there was that Regional Ranking thing that had Whitworth ahead of UW-Eau Claire. Seriously, the exclusion of the NWC champ seems more than a little fishy to me. Were there potential economic advantages to keeping them out of the dance? After all, only having one West coast team and sending Redlands to SJU probably pretty much takes care of anyone having to travel to or from the West coast after that doesn’t it? What’s the scoop?

  30. Ralph,
    I was going to say the same thing about the D2 question, that we actually have D3 teams who play out of division and we have those results to work with.

    I also watched a quarter of Abilene Christian while in Texas, and they’re a 9-2 playoff team … on the eye test they looked bigger and faster than any D3 I can think of.

    FWIW.

  31. Ypsi,
    I can look up the stat and accompanying data. I know I have used it many times in ATN. The key is remembering when and what keyword will bring it up in a search.

    In any case, back to work at my real job!

  32. Since 1997 OAC teams other than MUC have a combined playoff record of 12-7. Six of those losses have come from MUC. A 12-1 playoff record from the OAC second place team ?? And that lone loss was a blowout 16-12 BW loss to Wheaton in 2003. Yep, OAC is definately weak.

  33. Also, if you haven’t read this from Pat yet:

    http://www.d3football.com/notables/2007/11/11/New-look+bracket+long+overdue

    You might want to. Lots of good thoughts in there about why this bracket is suddenly different from others, including actual insight from NCAA officials.

    FWIW, I know you guys are all singluarly-focused, but you’re way to rough on the committee. This bracket is a fun one with a lot of good-looking matchups. Unless you are from Whitworth or Wheaton, you’re in … so stop complaining! 🙂

  34. Keith,

    I am from wheaton and I am not complaining. I don’t think anyone else from wheaton will either. we didn’t get it done in the regular season and we know what happens when you go to the dance without all your “bullets”. Thunder fans and players will get healthy and be back next year. I have no complaints on the committee taking other teams.

  35. Keith, Abilene Christian is the #4 seed in the Southwest Region and host Mesa State (10-1). Mesa State lost only to Chadron this year. That winner gets the chance to go to Chadron for the second round.

    I am glad your trip to Texas was so productive. We fans rely on your eyes to help us grasp the vastness of D3.

  37. D3Keith, thanks for all your comments. Earlier, you mentioned “3) UW-Eau Claire did pass Whitworth in the criteria, apparently. We’ll have to take a closer look to determine why.”

    Have you been able to determine why yet? A team that loses two D3 games (one to a 3-7 team) and doesn’t even win its conference getting the nod over a team that won the NWC (actually ran through it unblemished) and lost one D3 game to a team that won its conference and is heading towards the dance??? I believe comments about what the NWC has achieved in its short history in D3 have already been mentioned so I won’t repeat it. Oh, and there was that Regional Ranking thing that had Whitworth ahead of UW-Eau Claire. Seriously, the exclusion of the NWC champ seems more than a little fishy to me. Were there potential economic advantages to keeping them out of the dance? After all, only having one West coast team and sending Redlands to SJU probably pretty much takes care of anyone having to travel to or from the West coast after that doesn’t it? What’s the scoop?

  38. I will add that I am as excited as I can be (without my team) about these brackets. They are as fair as I can remember and the cross regional matchups will provide fodder for all of d3.com for many months to come. No more west teams saying “we have all the best teams” or north folks saying “if only we don’t have to go thru alliance” or east teams saying “we get no respect”. whether you are in the west, north, or east, you all get your shot starting right now. We will all know a lot more about the relative strength of the other regions in a few weeks…..or at least we will think we know.

  39. No more west teams saying “we have all the best teams”
    —-
    I don’t know USee, there’s a decent chance of two West teams in the semis … despite getting only 7 teams into the 32.

  40. As for the quality of the bracket, I am disappointed that Whitworth did not get at least the 10th at-large/7th Pool C bid and the now-predictable Texas sub-bracket will determine the best team in the State.

    Perhaps the NCAA ought to award a special trophy of mesquite wood, barbed wire and cowhide as the Texas Trophy!

    I honestly look forward to the South Region bracket. Regardless of who prevails in the UMHB-Trinity game, then W&J must defeat a team from Texas. The Presidents have not done that since 1994.

  41. I sort of recall a poll question earlier in the season what is your team playing for at the time my team had 2 losses and i thought they would be a lock for a ecac playoff imagine my suprise when i see my school in the ncaa’s well well with Mike DeLong (an e8 head coach and trying to guarantee an ECAC victory for Dave Murray) and Steve Mohr (head coach at trinity and my former golf teacher at IC ) I can see that IC makes some sense. Unfortunatly for all those who would like to see a different Stagg Bowl champion this year chances are there will not be a first round upset because traditionally Ithaca does lousy against NCAA teams from Ohio on the first try Wittenberg and Dayton come to mind.
    However my heart will be with the Bombers and praying for a shocking upset.

  42. Keith I find your toeing the line and trying to stay nice about the fact that there are some really stupid comments on this thread admirable but when someone (or in this case a lot of someone’s) can come in here with misinformed, ignorant, incorrect comments without being held accountable for what they are saying and with no regard to fact then the entire credibility of this board diminishes to nothing. I for one will not sift through the crap to find the intelligent, insightful posts.

    dukefinadv you need to lighten up pal. My son is defending this country. I find your combining of life and death to a football discussion board offensive. PERIOD.

  44. Altor,
    Just so you know Wabash College is located in Crawfordsville, IN and actually much further away from Mt. Union than Ithaca. In fact, White-water is closer to us than Mt. Union

  45. repete-I would think since the west was awarded 2 nmbr 1 seeds that, yes, there is a decent chance. That’s precisely what I was saying. The west got what they wanted, so did the north and the east.

  46. Ric,

    Deep breath, man. I think you’re right about some of the venting but you’re definitely wrong about dukefinadv.

    Even so, we don’t mind letting people vent. We hope they read the other comments, though, and see how far off they are.

  47. Usee,

    Yeah, I’m just saying expect some crowin’.. perhaps even from, uh, me …:) (but usually only after provocation by some scoffable East remark).

  48. Welllllllll, it only took till 5:16 pm from SJFF82 to get to the ” Mount hasn’t seen anything like us or played our level of competition scenario” Ahhhhh,…… yes they have.
    I think Keith covered it earlier but the preparation would be the same and so would the results IMHO. That is part of what Mount is all about. Prepared and focused. One game one opponent at a time. The OAC is generally regarded as the second best conference in D3. There isn’t much better preparation for the playoffs than that. It is not our fault other conferences are not as strong.
    The WIAC is also regarded as the best overall conference in the country. Their teams may be a shade above the OAC across the entire conference but 1-5 would be a crap shoot every year. Again IMHO. Mount has beaten their best two years running in the Stagg. Weak competition?

    As far as recruiting being harder. There are 52 colleges and universities in Ohio alone and 20 of those are D3. They are all competing for the same kids. The MAC, Big 10, NAIA and D1AA all can be found here too and the Raider roster still has 155 kids from OHIO and another 40 from other states. Doesn’t get much harder than that. It is still D3. Even one player via the east as I recall.

    It is commitment of the Head coach, his staff and the players that have brought them to this level and not playing little sisters of the poor every week or is it weak?. LOL. But what is to be said about the openers the next two years? Another weak opponent? Only if the Raiders win in a MONKEYSTOMP.

    Tell Ithaca to bring the “A” game because if “the Raider 3rd string QB and RB are deciding who is going to score the most TD’s in the second half” then you have only proved the rest of the country right about the east…..”Mount only has to play weak teams to get to the Stagg”. It can’t possibly be that Mount is that good. And you sure don’t want to be #7 in a row! I’ll let you look that one up.

    Just havin’ fun nothing personal.

    GO RAIDERS!

  49. “Keith I find your toeing the line and trying to stay nice about the fact that there are some really stupid comments on this thread admirable … ”

    Ric,
    Thanks. Try not to join the stupid comment brigade. Not everyone has been watching as closely as us for as long as we have. And as someone pointed out to me a few minutes ago, usually if they don’t respect Mount Union beforehand, they will after they play. So keep that in mind while you’re not sifting through the crap.

  50. Raider fans, I think that MUC’s venture into the East shall be one of the most interesting things about these playoffs. My first thought is that MUC thru the East Region will be like nothing we have seen since Sherman thru Georgia!

    It seems that there are some short memories about John Carroll in 2002, which beat Hobart and Brockport State plus South Region foe, Muhlenberg.

    In fact, I will bet that the Purple Raiders may have more fan interest as they make their run towards Salem.

    Best wishes and travel safely, all.

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