Alright, so here we are, at the culmination of more than 1,100 games and after 236 teams have been eliminated from contention for the 2007 Division III football national championship, with Mount Union and UW-Whitewater. The fans are already tailgating in the parking lot, getting ready for our 4 p.m. kickoff. We’ll keep you updated here throughout the day on all the goings-on and help you follow along.
Don’t forget to turn down the audio on ESPN (Pam Ward on play by play) and turn up our audio broadcast. Those of you with a DVR may find the delay is manageable by pausing the television. We’ll pronounce names correctly, etc. 🙂
Join Gordon Mann, Frank Rossi and Ryan Tipps on our game day show starting at 2 p.m. Keith McMillan and I will take over leading up to the 4 p.m. kickoff, with Frank on the sidelines.
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bleedpurple,
I concur….you have to admit the #4 seed was simply about money. The NCAA wanted UMHB to lose early as to not have pay for teams fly to Texas. I prefer for the Cru to continue having stiff competiton throughout the year….most teams in the ASC obvisiously cannot provide it.
Just got back from the holiday Inn bar and had a few moments to gather my thoughts. What a great game by UWW to slay the Dragon! MU showed no class at all. Their coach all the way on the field arguing a call along with Garson running his mouth all game. I think the worst thing though was after they were given the second place trophy they all jogged off the field not to hang around while UWW was given the first place trophy and Beaver player of game. Not a one player stuck around nor their coach. I mean who does that I know they disappointed but come on. A bunch of classes jags. UWW took their lumps the last two years and took it like a man. So in the future second place teams remember to run off the field before the first place trophy is awarded.
As has been stated by bleedpurple –
this board is a good place for folks to be held accountable…so here I am…bash away if you must….If ive said things that exude too much arrogance I’ll own up to them….I was at my wife’s company Christmas party at a hotel watching the game in a little sports bar, then had to sneak away every second I got to make sure I saw the 4th QTR….
I thought the Warhawks played inspired football…Justin Beaver brought it in a very special way today and has a National Championship to prove it….The Raiders usually play mistake free football, and today they did not…UWW is too good for ANY team to make that many mistakes…Props to UWW D for causing fumbles and making plays…some great tackling going on out there…Kmic is a quick guy and they handled him well…I thought a defining moment in the game happened very early on when MUC was stopped on the front door of the end zone…it sent a message that UWW came to win…
UWW won the battle at the line of scrimmage which was to me disappointing…huge holes on a few plays for Beaver…and the UWW D had tons of pressure on Micheli – I cant even remember how many times he had to abandon the play and take off and run, and that is a true accomplishment…you cant throw for big plays if you dont have the time in the pocket….
I have always been afraid for the Raider teams whose semifinal games were blowouts……Close games help keep a team grounded…and while I think its hard to judge, I think it is fair to say that MUC came in with at least a measurable amount of over-confidence….
UWW was not lucky – they were good…and good when it counted today….Like I said before the game, it has been a joy to watch this MUC team all year long and I stand by that….today they were not the better team….Im still proud of the season and proud to be a fan…
Bleed purple – I’ll take Nate Kmic in victory or defeat thank you very much…the guy is a class act…For every time he hasnt performed well, there are about four or five other games ( like the last two Staggs for example) where he has looked like a man among boys….and that “silly phrase” that you spoke of “one for the other thumb” that I have probably used on this board was nothing more than a fun way for us MUC fans who love this team to nickname the playoff run….If we wanted to be arrogant about we could have named it quite few other things that are far more creative…. we dont need you to donate anything to us…and Larry Kehres sure doesnt either….I can take a lot of things, but Larry Kehres bashing isnt one of them….the man is a coaching legend and whether you like him or not – he has set a standard of achievement that few others will ever know…He built a program from the ground up..the names have changed, but the excellence has stayed the same…if theres a list of names being made for those lacking dignity, as you suggested above with us Raider fans, your name shouldnt be far from it either….
If Garcon didnt shake hands ( I mssed the post game), that is disappointing…
win or lose, MUC should be about being respectful no matter the outcome…I will say that I am proud that the Raiders never quit….they had to scrap for everything today and it ended up not being enough…but they did not quit…which is a life long lesson in my opinion…
Congrats to UWW – this is your year to celebrate…
Thank you MUC players and coaches for a great season, and thanks to DIII.com for all their coverage….. from Week 1 to the Stagg its been a lot of fun here on the site…
Excited to watch Micheli and Kmic next season…there will be a lot of new names and faces next year – and I look forward to seeing what the 08 version has to offer…
Proud to be a Purple Raider,
MUCnash
vhwon,
I agree that Daniels and Thrasher would have big numbers against the so called machine.
You bring up an excellent point. If scheduling tough inter-regional games that you lose drops you to a # 4 seed then, why play when you are being penalized.
By the way, if you think any Raider player or fan cares about whether we are ranked #2 or # 4 or # 200….we dont…all we know is we werent #1…and that is all that matters…Taking consolation in any other ranking is absurd…arrogant? maybe…but its that kind of attitude of demanding nothing less than the top spot that has helped land MUC in so many Staggs for so many years…
I think if UMHB won all their games, the NCAA would still rank them lower, pray the Cru loses and attempt to save money in the process.
However, today is not about UMHB (#2) or even MUC (#2 or # 4 or # 200)….today is UWW’s day. Congrats Warhawks….you deserve it. Sorry MUCnash…I couldn’t resist. 🙂
what did I say that got me edited guys?
nevermind..my browser needed refreshing…my bad
My thoughts on the game,
from the very start I was impressed with Whitewater’s pursuit to the ball on defense and pressure on the QB. Their guys didn’t assume the first guy would make the tackle and that played a huge part in keeping MUC from busting the big play when you thought you had them.
I’ve thought all 3 years that the games were close and the teams very evenly matched. When two teams are fairly even and the bounce goes your way you win. By playing hard all the time you enhance your chance of being there to convert on that “lucky” play.
I’d also like to complimnent Pat and Keith on their broadcast. I will admit that I went with the ESPN video and audio for the first quarter before making use of my live pause to sync up the internet audio with my TV. I guess I made it a whole quarter because the ESPN commentators weren’t as bad as in the past years (that’s not exactly high praise). Your broadcast was much more enjoyable though.
Thanks for another great year!
bleedpurple
I didn’t get to read the post much this week. I have been studying for my law school finals! Did you make it out to salem? by your constant posting I will assume that you are home and not wasted somewhere in Virginia! congrats my friend, now you can relate to us Colts fans that had to wait so long to win the big one!
I posted earlier that UWW had to play the game of their lives and MUC had to make mistakes. Although both may have happened, the shocking thing is that UWW did make enough mistakes to doom them-if this were 2005 or 2006. The reality is, UWW was, without question, the better team today. I have feared the MUC juggernaut, not because I’ve seem them (except for championship games), but because I read so much about them. Heck, they only gave up 70 or so points, with most coming in the fourth quarter. However, they didn’t play a team the caliber of UWW all year. I have all the respect in the world for the best program that is MUC, but I believe the soft schedule cost them today. UWW took nothing for granted and played with a singular purpose of proving they were the best, and quite honesty, I don’t see how anybody with control of their senses could deny that. When MUC started to make their push, it was easy for all in the stadium, except the UWW players, to think “OK, here they go”, but UWW, in a magnificant way, just said no, not today. UWW responded with D and O, every time they had too, which is the sign of a true champion. Congrats to the MUC program for being the best to date, congrats to UWW for being the best this year-without doubt.
MUCNash,
I think your analysis of the game is fair. I think your loyalty and support of MUC is understandable. They are an amazing program. As I’ve stated more than once on these boards, they have given the rest of the D3 programs something to shoot for.
As far as my “dignity” goes, my aggressive posts on these boards are almost exclusively counter punches. They are responding to posts that I believe to be either arrogant or downright uncalled for. My comment on Kmick was in response to a post in which a poster said they would take Kmick every day of the week over Beaver. I have no problem with someone’s right to post his opinion. But then the person shouldn’t expect it to go unchallenged on a board like this either. The “dignity” comment I made was in response to another poster who brought up losing with dignity and winning with dignity. He seemed to be calling me to account for the fact that I was responding to the arrogance of SOME MUC fans a little harshly in his mind. He initiated the losing with dignity concept, I didn’t. I simply pointed out that his own team and fans didn’t consistently show it on Saturday. But he didn’t bother commenting on that. The coach I referred to was not Kehres, it was the coach who ran onto the field crying about a bad call. The player was Garcon for being, well, Garcon. If it is true the MUC team did not stay to watch UWW receive their championship trophy, then that speaks volumes about the dignity of the MUC program and yes, even Kehres. If that is true, I would suggest that dignity be a subject MUC fans don’t touch with fans of other programs. I think you showed dignity in showing up and posting. I think your comments showed dignity and reasonable support of your team. I don’t even mind you questioning my dignity because I know I come back kind of harshly when I am responding to quotes I perceive as arrogant or disrespectful.
When all is said and done, I’m thankful that we have the freedom and access (thank you D3football.com) to go at each other in debate. I have all the respect in the world for MUC, UMHB, UWW and the other d3 programs. Although I would admit I get passionate, I definitely would have a cold one and talk football with any poster i’ve read on these boards. You should be proud of your team and your program MUCNash. They earned every championship they have ever won. Have a great Christmas!
I have so much disdain for the comparitive score process (how would UMHB do against MUC) that I actually used it (mockingly so) a few weeks ago to win a contest on our local sports talk radio station (the prize was four tickets to a Sixers game along with four soft drinks and four hot dogs………four tickets to a Sixers game…….did I win or lose the contest?!). The contest was to come up with a string of comparitive scores so that the smallest possible school could “prove” victory over the largest/most highly rated D1 school as possible.
I used a Philadelphia area school (Phila radio station) against the D1 team that nobody would want to play right now……..in these scenarios…..Delaware Valley College beat USC!!!!! See below (it’s amazing what you can do with a quick computer program!!):
1. Delaware Valley beat Albright 21 – 14
2. Albright beat Kean (NJ) 42 – 17
3. Kean (NJ) beat Western Connecticut 40 – 7
4. Western Connecticut beat Iona (1-AA) 41 – 37
5. Iona beat Sacred Heart 34 – 10
6. Sacred Heart beat Marist 41 – 34
7. Marist beat Georgetown 37 – 34
8. Georgetown beat Bucknell 20 – 17
9. Bucknell beat Fordham 38 – 24
10. Fordham beat Rhode Island 27 – 23
11. Rhode Island beat UMass 12 – 6
12. UMass beat Villanova 32 – 24
13. Villanova beat Delaware 16 – 10
14. Delaware beat Navy 59 – 52
15. Navy beat Notre Dame 46 – 44
16. Notre Dame beat Stanford 21 – 14
17. Stanford beat USC 24 – 23
I’d like to congratulate the Aggies for their stunning “paper comparitive score upset” of the Trojans!!!
Speedybigboy — thanks. We had a great time, as always.
“Warhawkgrad” — it’s obvious you don’t like us, but just so you know, there is no final NCAA ranking. In fact, there’s no NCAA national ranking at all. Not sure what you’re thinking about there.
dukefinadv
I think you found a way for USC to go 0-10 against DIII.
Del Val lost to Wesley who lost to Montclair who lost to col. of NJ amd so on…
And yes that Mount Union coach made an ass of himself… And continued to do so after the fact…
I think we should give credit to the UWW DB’s for taking Garcon out of the game. Garcon played to the camera’a better than he played on the field
great game..
this was my first team seeing either team live….i feel that they were pretty evenly matched and probably would split a series of 10
i think that not being involved in any competitive second halves (or games) this year really hurt them…by the fourth quarter it looked like Beaver could run for 500 yds if given the chance…the MT union d-line looked tired and I feel that it was because of my above statement….whitewater did schedule a DII school and UMHB along with their tough schedule…this ensured that they would be ready for a game like this…..
Congratulations again…
bleedpurple,
I made the dignity comment.
The game was switched almost immediately by ESPN so I have no idea what happened afterwards. I only have two things to say really.
1) All the Mount Union program bashing needs to stop. None of you has any idea what talking occured from the UWW side. I’m sure there was plenty during the game so let’s not think that it was one-sided.
2) Re: the coach coming on the field. How would any of you react if a call was missed that potentially cost the team you’re coaching a national championship? He lost his head and I’m sure he’ll be hearing about it but let’s not condemn the guy to fire and brimstone for one act. Honestly, think about it.
Have a safe celebration all and a safe trip home to those that attended the game.
Wow – great game.
C O N G R A T U L A T I O N S to the
U W W W A R H A W K S
Much respect to the MUC SRs –
in your short tenure of involvment in D3 football, you have accomplished more than 99% of the other programs have in their entire history – great job.
Best of luck in your future endeavors.
I think the case can be made that the 2007 version of UWW has to be viewed as the greatest team in the history of Division 3 football.
The evidence: a 14-1 record, and the champion of a 32 team playoff.
The one loss coming against a scholarship D2 program. Taking on twice, and beating twice by a combined score of 57-21 the tough as nails program power in MHB. The 40 point pasting of Wabash (one of the most consistently good programs in the country with a .807 winning pct last 7 seasons). A 20 point beating of Capital – the 2nd best team in the vaunted OAC.
And finally, a 10 point victory over MUC. The undefeated, 2-time defending champ. A team that was described as the best team in its nine National Championship history by the know-it-alls on the Dose and Post Patterns.
I think the evidence is there, and a case can be made, that this 2007 UWW team could be the best team ever.
Sportsmanship
To the chalkers of MUC. Remember back to TCNJ a few weeks ago?? Yes, TCNJ, the college that has been consistently voted as one of the top 75 colleges in the country from an academic standpoint and who you were referring to as “Jersey Thugs”.
Remember the unflattering things you said about the coaches and players?
How behavior is translated often has to do with the end result of the game.
Let’s take a look at the Stagg Bowl. Broadcast around the nation: Personal foul penalties. A top player refusing to shake hands at the end of the game. A coach running onto the field to lob some F-Bombs to an official and getting penalized as well.
How do you think that played out to the viewers? The bottom line is that your players/coaches, apparently are no different in their behavior than other programs. You just had the convenience of it being covered and turning a blind eye to it by the final score.
If you were so easy to scold others – then scold your own when they do the same or worse.
SJF Fan,
Best team ever? I presume you’re just lacking the sarcasm font and are taking shots at the MUC folks who were proclaiming this MUC team as one of the best ever. (It’s happened before BTW.) That’s what I’d surmise if it came from other posters here, but given some of your previous posts it’s hard to give the benefit of the doubt.
There’s a serious lack of historical perspective here from many, many posters ….
But one thing I’ve never seen before is MUC become so emotionally unglued with the PFs and the assistant coach’s antics.
Back from Salem –
What an awesome game. A few points –
1. UWW simply eliminated the big game changing play that MUC had the last two years. Kmic and Garcon got their touches but never got that one “Big Play.”
2. The thought that the better team did not win could only be stated by someone who was not paying attention to the game.
3. I was saying all week that the UWW Defense would be the difference, they created turnovers and never let Micheli get comfortable in the pocket.
4. The UWW defense would have had at least 3 more sacks had the officials known where their flags were. The reviews were great but as far as the overall officiating…terrible. The missed holding calls let MUC get back in a game that was being dominated by UWW.
5. UWW fought all the way through, they weren’t tired and showed their dominance in the 4th when they just kept making huge stops.
6. MUC – find a field goal kicker you can trust. Bottom line – a 7-3 game plays much different than a 7-0 game and making a goal line stop. This game should have been closer but the arrogance of the MUC team to go for it every time may have cost them the game. UWW just played smarter.
7. Salem is a great host and I would love o go back there any year!
Overall a great trip and a great win. UWW played their hearts out all year and clicked at the right time. This is the third time I have made the trip and every year I have enjoyed the people and hospitality of the city. Hope everyone had a safe trip home, can’t wait to see the team this afternoon! This wouldn’t be as fun if it wasn’t played against MUC, you have a great team and program and I am glad UWW had the opportunity to play you the last three years. See you next year, who knows maybe you will have to visit Whitewater!
Final thoughts,
D3.com, Keith, Pat and the rest of the crew. Great job all year. I love your site. You give D3 the respect and dignity that it deserves.
SJF Fan, you are goofy, why you’re still hanging around when your team has been out for weeks I’ll never know. It will be fun the next two years watching Mount kick the snot out of SJF. cru crushed, who cares what you think about Mount. It’s obvious that posting here is the closest you and SJF will ever get to a Stagg bowl. Spout your mouths when you have something to back it up. You two are pathetic!
Finally, congratulations to UWW. You were the best team last night. Justin Beaver, you are a GREAT football player that I will always remember for the class you showed in victory and defeat, great game.
Mount will be back next year and the scary thing is that they will have a BIG chip on their shoulder. So until next season, farewell, so long and Merry Christmas to all and a happy, healthy, new year.
Unfortunately the weather played a part in the game and countered MUC’s biggest asset which is speed. But, that’s life and it was a fun game to watch. Did I see game?
SJF Fan
If you want to talk about best teams ever, check stats for 1997 Stagg Bowl. Score was 61-12 in favor of MUC with 697 total yards of offense.
just returned from salem. it was a very good football game and yes, the better team won the game. i am not sure how you could have come away with any other conclusion if you were at the game. uww was in control for most of the game. they answered every challenge that was thrown at them. i dont think the weather changed the game at all. uww defense was all over the place, mounts best play seemed to be qb run for your life because of the pressure uww was getting. it was a shame that #1 couldnt find the ability to make it to the line to shake hands at the end of the game, must have been a really serious hammy he pulled, no class at all. raider fans, you have a good team, but give credit to the other team when you get beat. stop whining and as i told several of your fans at the game, the fact that you have 9 championships doesnt have any effect on the game at hand. uww, you guys should be proud of your effort, you left nothing to chance and played a fantastic game. justin beavers was awesome and jones did what had to be done, enjoy the feeling and good luck next year. it was my first trip to salem and it wont be my last, props go out to the stone station guys for the great spread and commeraderie. i feel privileged to have met you guys this year and look forward to many more tailgating experiences with you and the others that were there yesterday. happy holidays to all on the site.
repete – I’m not being sarcastic, I am giving the chalkers a chance to show they meant what was being said all year long – that the ’07 MUC was the best in the school’s history. And if its the best in MUC’s history, then it is the best in all of D3 (based on the premise that MUC is the best program – and it is). So if UWW beats you, and has beaten all D3 teams including MHB twice (and Capital, and Wabash, and EauClaire), with the best running back, then do you not think the case can be made it is the best team ever??? – I think there can be that discussion.
ronamuc – I have no doubt that the ’97 version of MUC was a dominant team. And I will take your word for it (did you play for that team?) as they have the hardware to back it up.
The point I was making is that pretty much all season long, those in the know made a very compelling case that the ’07 MUC was the best team ever – so if that is the case, then the team that beats that team should be in that conversion. Right?
No. They were better on that day. The Chicago Bulls team that won 72 games was beaten 10 times that year…none of the teams that beat them are in the best of all time conversation.
downtown – I see the case you are making – however, where I think it doesn’t hold up is that you are trying to compare a regular season loss to the playoffs. No one beat the Bulls in the playoffs on their way to a championshp. UWW, when playing for the championship, did – I think that’s a big difference.
Keith..
When do the final rankings come out? Can we assume another sore loser to vote for MUC as the #1 Team in the Nation as we did in 2004?
I guess its time to start thinking about the team to beat in 2008….I would say that Wesley returns a pretty strong team to contend.
Fan,
While that’s probably a pretty interesting discussion to have on the General FB board, it’s also one of those discussions were consensus is unlikely … I can’t buy UWW as the “best team ever.”
Certainly, UWW was the best team this season, but “best ever” takes in a lot of good teams.
What about the great Augustana teams? How about Linfield with Brett Elliot (and a d2 victory)? Or the 1976 SJU team that beat powerful Towson St. in its final d3 season? UWW — as good as they were — still lost by 12 to a mediocre d2 team.
A lot of the MU types were having the same discussion in 2003. They had huge big-name linemen like Dillard and Kinnard. They had outscored opponents 49-6 in the regular season. They averaged 300 or so on the o-line and had about a 60-lb average on their Stagg opponents’ d-line. They had won 3 straight d3 titles and 55 straight games. They were averaging 541 ypg. They reached the finals off a 66-0 win.
So was the unbeaten team that beat MUC by 18 in the Stagg “the best ever”? Who knows? I can’t say that — and I was there.
This UWW team could be in the mix — but take a breath before saying “the case can be made that the 2007 version of UWW HAS TO BE VIEWED as the greatest team in the history of Division 3 football.”
Oops, the Warhawks lost to St. Cloud by 10 …
I can see your point as well. In all actuality it’s probably not a fair comparison anyway considering we’re trying to compare a sport that plays 82 games as opposed to 10. UWW was great this year obviously but I don’t think they were any better than the UWW team I saw beat Linfield in 2005. I think this years version just made 2 or 3 more big plays in the Stagg…I’m thinking if these teams played eachother 10 times they’d probably split.
repete – You make very valid points. I don’t know much about the other teams you mentioned. As to the unbeaten team that beat MUC by 18 in the Stagg – who knows.
I’m only making my case (without any historical context) based on the comments from fans on Post Patterns and here on the Dose, LK, and the principals of this site. No one seemed to dispute what was being said. So my feeling is that, if beaten by a UWW team that ran the D3 tables, perhaps they should be in that conversation not only because of the victory over MUC, but also who they had to go through to get there.
Either way though – I think we can all agree that both teams are great, and based on how they mashed through everyone else would say it is a fair assessment that MUC and UWW in 2007 were the class of the sport.
Back from the Stagg
CONGRATULATIONS WARHAWK FANS, COACHES, AND PLAYERS!!!
My take on the game
It appeared to me that your coaches prepared an excellent game plan. The player execution was outstanding. You forced Mount into making physical and mental errors. You were relentless in your pursuit of a victory. You earned the right to be called:
“THE 2007 NATIONAL CHAMPION”
I’m somewhat kidding about this … but since UWW didn’t have to come out of the West this post-season, they might have caught a little break. Had they been seeded in the West, they would have had 3 other top 9 teams to deal with vs. none in the North bracket. (Bethel’s struggles in Alliance hurt his argument a bit tho.)
Stagg champions since 1995:
East — zip
South — zip
North — MU
West — UW-LaCrosse, SJU, PLU, Linfield, UWW
So, I guess what we’re saying is then that the Fish need to step it up and rep the East then to the first title since IC – (hopefully 2008!).
Has the Semi’s pairing always been East vs. North and West Vs. South? Does it rotate or is it always going to be this way?
just got home from the game. couple of things (remembering i’m a mount guy):
1) great effort by whitewater, and the best team won, no question.
2) whitewater dominated the line of scrimmage both ways. i’m guessing micheli has never seen that much pressure, and it rattled him.
2) beaver was spectacular. he just wouldn’t go down.
3) the UWW QB was solid
4) the UWW coaching staff had a great gameplan, and executed it well. they disguised their defenses well – mount never seemed to get who would be rushing, and the wide receivers were seemingly never open. this doesn’t happen often, but mount’s staff was outcoached.
5) there was more jawing than i expected, but it wasn’t too bad with the notable exception of garcon. and not only was he jawing without performing, he also decided he couldn’t shake hands with the winner. from what i could see, he was the only player from either side who did not go onto the field afterward to congratulate UWW.
6) while the officiating wasn’t great, and didn’t affect the outcome in my judgment (see point 1 – the better team won) the only thing that was egregious were the two times UWW’s running back pushed someone into the end zone. there is a rule against that, isn’t there? i seem to recall mount being penalized for that in a stagg bowl a few years back.
7) the weather was pretty bad, but it seemed to not have an effect on the outcome.
again, congrats to UWW. great job.
SJC – i believe the point most mount fans were making was that this version of mount was the best mount team ever. and as it turns out, even that is not true. whether the 97 bunch was the best ever in D3 is for the judgment of someone who has seen more than i have.
Fan,
The region matchups change. For example, it was West vs East in both 2003 (RPI) and 2004 (Rowan).
SJF Fan: The semifinals used to be on a rotating basis, I believe, but are now decided by the NCAA’s “seeding” of the top seed in each region. This year, it went:
1) East (MUC)
2) North (UWW)
3) South (Washington & Jefferson)
4) West (Central)
Thus, the East champion played the West champion, and the North and South champions played.
I just happened to read the most recent of the “Triple-Take” post comments, and noticed one from D3Keith: “The more I think about it, tackling well is going to be huge. So many keys to this game, but that’s starting to be the one I think will have most inflence on the outcome.”
I was extremely impressed by UWW’s tackling yesterday, especially by, I believe LB Rindahl. I don’t see many non-SJU games outside of Stagg Bowls, but that was some of the best tackling I’ve seen since, well, the 2003 Stagg. 🙂 Keith, your point was very insightful!
After watching Garcon’s antics last night both during and after the game, I got my ultimate Christmas present an hour ago when the undermanned have-nothing-to-play-for-but-pride Eagles beat the Cowboys yet again in Dallas. I got 12 points locally and will be visiting Vinny in the morning with the collection plate!! T.O. was ripping into Romo on the sidelines and threw him under the bus in the postgame press conference. A leopard doesn’t change his spots. What is it with these wide receiver diva’s…….at all levels!!
D3Keith – what a brilliant, unselfish move by Brian Westbrook (Villanova…D1-AA) to stop at the one yard line on the way to the end zone. How many players, at any level of football, would have been smart enough and unselfish enough to not score a touchdown. Merry Christmas indeed!!
Buddy,
Your last post was dead on, with the exception of adding the officiating. I just got home from the game and I’m watching the tape-can’t get enough of this one. I admit upfront I am a UWW guy, so I am paying closer attention to their players. There is 7 minutes left in the 2nd quarter and UWW just punted to Garcon at the five. MUC #21 clearly and indisputably just clipped UWW#7- I hope you have the tape and watch it. This play, by the way, is at least the third no call I’ve seen that went against UWW, the other two were clear holds on a run outside and a pass rush.
This is only the second quarter.
UWW took on all challengers, MUC, weater and non-calls.
End of story.
BaylorFan: Nobody voted for Mount Union No. 1 in 2004’s final poll in our poll.
http://www.d3football.com/top25/2004/week-16