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We’ve got two rematches and two new matchups. Now that we’re down to eight teams, who will benefit the most from the reshuffled bracket? And where will we find ourselves on Saturday?
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Is SJF d3knowitall in disguise?
BiasD3FootballFan,
To be honest the Mount Fans are tired of seeing UWW. It’s the same old story, UWW blows everybody out in the self proclaimed “world’s toughest conf.” Then meets Mount only to lose. Blaa, Blaa, Blaa. Oh, by the way whether you lose by 7 or 19 it’s still a big fat “L”. Since the NCAA gave us new blood for the bracket, it would be fun to beat some new blood if we make it to the stagg. Like I said before we don’t take anyone for granted. Mount has two games left before it can think about the Stagg. But I will leave you with a couple of things to ponder: when your team has NINE National Champ rings, you can be a little cocky. That leaves you and the rest of the country wanting. Hunger is a good thing. Second, Dear UWW fan, to be the best, you got to beat the best.
Pretty original huh? Just like Mount winning.
later
Hi — it’s not just the self-proclaimed toughest conference in Division III.
http://www.d3football.com/columns/around-the-nation/2007-09-26/How+we+ranked+the+conferences
http://www.d3football.com/columns/around-the-nation/2006-08-30/ATN%27s+2006+conference+rankings
It’s great to have the best team in the country, yes. Get back to us if Muskingum beats Platteville or Wilmington beats UW-River Falls.
Destroyed is a little strong, but BiasD3….no one thinks Mount is unbeatable…you dont have to look very far back to see that they are not…no one could have predicted Ohio Northern to go into Alliance and shock the Raiders two years ago…but they did…
Im gonna stay off the board until Salem….I should have just followed my gut and let Mount’s play do the talking….SJF fan got me going…I’m out…
dlippiel – You beat me to the punch……..SJF Fan is last year’s d3knowitall (still the second greatest oxymoron next to jumbo shrimp!!). It’s like me talking smack about the Eagles in the week leading up to Sunday night’s game…….as the greatest underdog in the last 25 years……with a journeyman, backup QB and a fourth string safety (against those receivers)…..on a visiting field……and actually believing that they had a chance to win. Uh oh…….bad point…….they almost did just that!!
I get a kick at how SJF is just making a bunch of @#$% up, without any belief or conviction, and how the Mount Youngstown State Union fans are taking the bait. Mount……..you make someone like SJF Fan go away by ignoring him….not by acknowledging him!! Yes, you will win yet another Stagg and will bring another gazillion kids into the program next year so you can be 10 deep at each position and the relatively few programs that genuinely care about even remotely attempting to achieve that level of success……..you are the standard!!
piperarcher – and I quote, “wouldn’t you love to see how “real” Hawaii is in a playoff”? Let’s see………each player saving their parents about $150K (considerably more with interest on loans) by getting a D1 scholarship…….a “heaven on earth location”…….and some of the most beautiful women in the world (sounds just a tad bit better than the typical D3 setting in the midwest and northeast, especially Dec – March!!)…….Hawaii sound “real” awesome to me right about now!!
# dlippiel Says:
November 27th, 2007 at 5:34 pm
Is SJF d3knowitall in disguise?
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Nope – SJF Fan is my only ID – d3knowitall is not me. . . . now, whether or not I THINK I know it all in D3 football is another matter . . . (of course, the answer is yes!)
dukefinadv Says:
November 27th, 2007 at 6:56 pm: I get a kick at how SJF is just making a bunch of @#$% up, without any belief or conviction
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What specifically have I made up?
You don’t see any conviction behind what I’m saying? ? ?
Another example of why hedge funds have the largest collection of over rated brains in one industry in the U.S.
Ric Says:
November 27th, 2007 at 5:20 pm
SJF Fan I just dont’ think comparing the East as a general statement to the OAC . . . . . . is illogical,
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Ric – I see your point – One: a conference vs. region, two, every conference has some teams that are at different levels on any given year, and in the playoffs, they are only going to be squaring off vs. the teams that are in the upper part of the conference. you are correct.
Yup. Mt. Union is beatable…Ask the last team that beat them in the playoffs in Alliance…UMHB! As crazy as the Pro’s and D1 has been this year with “sure” winners, I’ll be the first to predict a new D3 champion for 2007. UWW? UMHB? Wesley? SJF? If you aren’t an excited fan about the 4 matchups this weekend, then you need to spend some time reading the BCS articles….D3 football is the best.
SJF Fan – MUCnash is the one who questioned your having to stick to a position/prediction. You have not put a score out here as of yet. As far as the hedge fund comment…..please don’t go there for you are even further out of your league in this arena (the minimum investmnet for my services starts at $2.5 million) than SJF will be against Mount Union. Care to make a “hedge fund type” wager on it? My clients are up (in aggregate) 32.7% YTD……..long oil, titanium, wheat, euro, loonie……short US financials, homebuilders and the dollar. I’d bet that return is beating your 401K return by quite the margin?! SJF…..you’re going to make the East look bad (football-wise……..not where it really matters, academically) if SJF gets rolled…..and I’m an East Coast snob so lay low, shhhhhhhhh and cross your fingers!!
Anyone who posts on a football site with “duke” in the name should be banished. Can’t believe they lost to ND!!!! I’d be interested in seeing some predictions!
Wow, holly Napoleon complex Duke.
First: In case your reading comprehension is rusty from a prior question posed – play to win. Does not matter how by how much or how little, win period. No moral victories allowed. SJF will win or they won’t – I think they will. Not sure it can be spelled out any clearer –
Second: Yes, MUC did question and he was answered and acknowledged that answer, and you clearly failed to answer when caught in a lie: so the question still stands – what did I make up? and how is it that I don’t have conviction?
Third: As to the hedgies, two five is pocket change found in the cushions in a sofa somewhere in CT. As it relates to your performance, your segment is unregulated and claims are rarely backed up so – essentially, I’m saying your full of it unless you can prove otherwise. So shut up, and get back to answering the phones for your boss.
I have been reading the posts and keeping silent as usual, but I feel I must respond to the repeated comments on the MUC vs. Ithaca game and how the IC offense moved the ball at will, but for an interception in the endzone, could have been different, etc. I have not yet heard anyone mention the fact that MUC held the ball for the last 7 minutes of the game and took a knee at IC 5 yard line as the last minute ticked off the clock, after marching the ball all the way down the field uncontested. So those of you who are determined to talk about “what if’s” don’t forget to add another 7 pts to the MUC total.
I was at the game people and bottom line is that IC played well but was still completely overmatched. MUC won the game in a decisive fashion, period.
Can MUC be beaten? Of course. If a team scores more points than Mount they will most likely win the game.
MUC93 – I don’t recall anyone saying the result would have been different – if not for the INT’s in the endzone – it was mentioned as further evidence in regards to IC being able to move the ball on the vaunted MUC D. You’re projecting (a common affliction amongst the supporters of MUC football I might add) on that.
If you feel so miffed by the assertions you may wish to go to Post Patterns on the OAC board and consult with the several dozen that are MUC supporters and were at the game and posted the comments to begin with. I simply saw the tape, and concurred with their own quotes.
As far as winning decisively, yes, three TDs plus is a pretty large margin of victory.
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Now that you guys got me started ranting I can’t stop.
Last I checked, interceptions in the red zone were part of the game, and something that a good defense does. They also tend to happen on occasion when a team is COMPLETELY UNABLE TO RUN THE BALL (like IC was against MUC defense).
Did IC throw the ball well? Yes, and props to them. But how many of you have seen a team win when they gained a total of 13 yds on the ground? I don’t know the answer but I’m guessing it is pretty rare.
BaylorFan – I went to a school with a significantly higher average SAT score than Duke…….so please don’t offend me!!
SJF Fan – There have been more than enough people on this board (not including me) who have busted your chops and have made comments like “there’s one of these guys on the board this time every year” when talking about you. You’re full of bravado and have predicted an outright victory………and have knocked the OAC teams in the process (without reason). As far as my “claims”, my clients satisfaction is all that matters (I’m not in it for the money…….yea, right:). If you’re a good boy (and if SJF is wins as you assure all of us), I’ll consider letting you use my home in Fort Lauderdale for a vacation week to escape the upcoming beauty that is the five month long Rochester winter!! I’ll also let my friends, Lawrence Golub and Karen Finerman know that $2.5 million is pocket change in a sofa in CT (you can have Stamford……give me Manhattan!!!)…..at 2.0% per annum + 17.5% of profits, we’ve been laughing all the way to the bank, along with our clients for years. How much of the VMWare IPO did you get big boy?! I answer the phones all day for my bosses (not boss)………my clients. Now, you go back and stop breaking The Fisher Creed, specifically, the one about respect. Dr. Bain would be very disappointed with you!! SHORT THE DOLLAR WITH THE IMPENDING FED RATE CUT ON DECEMBER 4……..but I’m sure that you’ve been doing that all along!!
R24aider Says:
November 27th, 2007 at 5:48 pm
“BiasD3FootballFan,
To be honest the Mount Fans are tired of seeing UWW. It’s the same old story, UWW blows everybody out in the self proclaimed “world’s toughest conf.” Then meets Mount only to lose. Blaa, Blaa, Blaa.”
Mt. Union has a fabulous football team. However, as good as your team is R24aider, your arrogance exceeds it. As much as you believe the Raiders success entitles you to be arrogant, the NCAA still does not allow you to actually CHOOSE your opponent in the Stagg Bowl. Personally, I hope it is UWW and firmly believe they will “destroy” MUC by 7. I don’t know much about most of the other teams, but I do believe UMHB also could beat mighty MUC any given Saturday. I watched the last two Stagg Bowls. MUC is very good. They are far from unbeatable.
Finally, the team that has put up the most fight against MUC the last two years in the playoffs was not UWW or SJF, but CAPITAL (of the OAC).
MUC93 – Capital – 3pts last year right?
Duke – I can only hope your some dopey intern, if you go back and re-read what you just posted, its pretty beneath the industry and you’ll be regretting it in the future. Further, only the sheep and the mass ham and egg public are shorting the dollar on the rate cut now of all times – it’s already in the cake . . what’s your next words of wisdom, buy the Euro now too??? – – its yesterday’s bull market. Be a man, use the brain you claim to have and think differently than what was reported on CNBC – go long on USD with a tight stop – prep for the squeeze, Wheat, Sugar, and Corn.
And yes, I accept your apology.
SJF- there were actually several earlier posts that stated how the “score should have been closer” but for the red zone interception. I admit I don’t remember if it was you. I think you will agree with my point that taking a knee in the opponents red zone also could potentially alter the final score.
For the record, I don’t think you are the entity formerly known as D3knowitall. You actually say some rational things (I’m glad you agree that 3+ TD’s is a decisive margin of victory, for example). I dont recall the other guy ever saying anything remotely rational.
Um, I don’t know if we’re reading the same threads or you’re just fishing for some bulletin board material, but as far as I can tell, no one thinks Fisher will get skunked.
We just think it’s highly unlikely they will win. Because it is.
Seems like you’re the one that refuses to look at all the possibilities.
Not interested in a confrontation, just sayin’ …
VERY good question.
Pipearcher and Teamski, both good posts at 9:58 this morning. Good insight.
SJF Fan, again, I don’t know what made you think there were two interceptions in the endzone, there were not. Go back and look at the stats of the game.
I asked (MUC All-American DE) Justen Stickley face-to-face after the Stagg Bowl who they toughest/best team they played was and he said … drum roll please … Whitewater. Hands down.
FWIW.
I tried a quick Google but didn’t see it, but if I wrote it somewhere and I find it, I will post it.
By the way, if that guy isn’t taking down Wall Street or whatever, he can work with us anytime. Stickley was sharp.
Keith if by no one you mean you – fine, I will opt to believe you. The other MUCers seem to think otherwise though.
Actually, they’re usually fine and among our smartest, most respectful fans. You’ll have to pardon them if they’ve seen this before. This happens every year, some team that’s hot within its conference or its region gets a few jaw-jackers yapping on the board and then their team gets pummeled 70-30 or 66-0 or 35-14.
Again, as you all know, I have no connection to Mount Union and haven’t been the hugest Purple Raiders supporter over the years, I’m just speaking the truth. Ignore me if you will …
Mount Union is not unbeatable, but I hope (and am fairly confident) the players aren’t as blase about facing Mount Union as some of the posters are. It’s going to take your team’s best effort by far.
Yeah, I am reading in order, and at the time of the post I responded to, it was looking pretty tame. Not as much … but then again, you guys do come on here asking for it 🙂
“. . .Everyone there in Alliance . . . ”
I think most people ignored that comment because it was way off base –
At last year’s Semi’s the folks from Alliance (at least in the parking lot before and after the game) were fairly welcoming and good sports.
Re: ignored … sorry, sometimes I skim and respond to weirdest stuff first. I don’t always have my “ignore that” filter on.
Yes, re: UWW … haven’t seen them this year either, but “are they better than last year?” has been a frequent topic of discussion since I had them No. 5 in my rankings in June, behind UMHB, Wesley and Fisher. … the theory then was so much turmoil for UWW and a lot of key losses but a lot back, they would maybe lose a regular season game and take a while to hit their stride … that’s basically played out to form, although I’m not sure I thought the game would be St. Cloud State, so I’m not patting myself on the back too hard.
I do have some insight on UWW and we do have a feature going up probably tomorrow a.m. that seeks to answer those questions (I know because I asked the writer the questions) with regard to their defense, anyway.
MUC smashing UWW is a bit of an exaggeration, but they did prove to be the better overall team-all things considered. As I recall, in the first Stagg, UWW made a dramatic comeback, perhaps the result of “first time” jitters. Last year, although the score was lopsided, was anything but a MUC blowout. I give MUC credit for punt blocks and solid play at QB and receiver, but MUC had nothing to do with the UW QB fumbling the ball without contact, center exchange or missed throws to wide open receivers when passing lanes were clear. I am not saying UWW beats them this year if they (UWW) gets the chance, but in now way do I think MUC is beyond beatable by the Warhawks. UWW has to figure out how to match the mental aspect that MUC brings, the talent is there already.
I didn’t see a response to Baylorfan’s post at 8:11pm from any Mount Union fans. I really would like to know what you guys think. Would you like to see a UMHB/Mount Union rematch? I wouldnt mind seeing it again. I had to sit in my dorm last time and listen to it on the radio, maybe if it happens I will get to actually watch it.
Also, I would like to point out that UMHB is the only school in Division III that has both Football and Men’s Basketball ranked in the top 10 in the nation at the moment. (Football #4, Men’s Basketball #9)
As far as the schedule, off the top, I can’t say it was the most ambitious, but with the WIAC being a balanced league and our No. 1, then adding a D2 team and a D3 top 5 in Mary Hardin-Baylor in non-conference, yeah, you’d be hard-pressed to find a team who played a better slate.
I’m a simpleton so I love jokes like this.
In all seriousness, there have been years when Mount Union looked beatable by other elite teams. If you go back to the 03 and 04 teams that lost, they were good Mount Union teams, but did not have the talent at certain positions, or were playing with a rotation, that they have now.
This is basically last year’s team without the stud DEs and with Micheli taking all the snaps at QB. Some other changes, I think they lost two OL, but in a program that size … well anyway, they have replaced everyone and their good players you’d think have gotten a year better.
So not trying to be a naysayer or dream-squasher, I’m just saying what reason to we have to believe that they won’t win again?
They are healthy.
Kehres does not let them lose focus or believe there’s an opponent that can’t beat them if they have a bad day.
I believe in Any Given Saturday as much as anyone, but for a superior team to lose it must be outplayed.
So that’s basically what you have to do, have your best game and make MUC make some mistakes.
It can happen. I doubt it, but won’t rule it out completely.
If it ends up being UWW and MUC again, I guess the new twist is that Leipold and Zebrowski will scheme up something they haven’t seen before, that Jones isn’t Jacobs, etc., etc.
I usually buy into the idea that every Stagg Bowl is going to be a great matchup (and they often are), so I’m hook, line and sinker on whatever is cooked up.
D3Keith
I really love this, there is almost a full week of comments about the Fisher MUC game and really, no one gives Fisher an even chance except SJF Fan. The other key issue in regards to these comments is that those who make them really, really don’t know a darn thing about the St. John Fisher squad other than they have won a few games.
Well, I am glad you folks are gloating in your ignorance. I am sure it is just what we Fisher Fans are enjoying about these comments. As I see it, there is little respect shown for what Fisher has accomplished to date with any of these comments. I am sure those who keep yelling that there is no respect for MUC will get the same wake up call that occurred last year, this Saturday. Just keep looking beyond this game!
Assuming Fisher wins on Saturday, which most of you believe hell would also freeze over, will you then start you doing your job and get the facts right.
No matter what happens Saturday, it will be the game of the week.
bleedpurple,
I think you and your team(s) better worry about the opponants this week and next. Climbing the Mount should be the last thing on your mind right now. This is silly! We Mount fans can say just about anything about our team and coach because our team has the credentials to back it up. How many National Championships does your team have? How many consecutive conferance championships does your team have? How many times did your team break the consecutive win record? I could go on and on. I think you should be addressing the Wabash fans and stop worrying about something as “Mountumental” as beating the Purple Raiders.
pat and keith:
I do not where else to post this so I will post it here. GREAT article by Jason Bowen on the Wesley running backs. I go to almost every practice and I have seen the four backs up close and personal. The article caught their relationship exactly. Four fine young men. Alfa Kroma is one of Wesley’s captains as well and has handled the whole situation like a true captain. I am honored that coach Drass has allowed me on the field during practice and proud the Alfa and the others refer to me as just “Doc!” Good luck to them this Saturday. No matter the outcome they will still be four great young men!
I highly dought our fans or players are looking past sjf.They never do any team, thats why they are always prepared.
wjbtms,
“Assuming Fisher wins on Saturday, which most of you believe hell would also freeze over, will you then start you doing your job and get the facts right.(sic)”
I have “no dog in this hunt”, but there has been no mis-attribution or mis-characterization of the facts by MUC fans.
For the continued success that MUC has had for over a decade, they have remained one of the most humble group of fans that I have seen in watching sports since the early 1960’s.
I really don’t think that the MUC game will be the game of the week considering the uncertainty surrounding the outcomes of Wesley-UMHB and Central-Bethel. The real upset this week will be Wabash over UWW.
If the expectation of the SJF-MUC game has been lowered, then perhaps anything less than a “monkey-stomp” will be considered a moral victory. If SJF prevails, then I think that the remaining three teams in the playoff instantly see their chances of winning the Stagg improve immensely. SJF caught MUC on that 1-in-20 bad day that they have. (That is p = .05 for you probability fans and qualifies as being statistically significant 🙂 )
Travel safely, all.
deuces,
re: I am neither a MUC follower or a SJF follower, but from my view, I see SJF prevailing in this matchup:
Mount Union 31
St. John Fisher 42
I have no problem with fans predicting that their team will win. As a matter of fact, i think all fans should have the belief that their team can win any game they are in. However, to predict that SJF will score 41 points is pretty gutsy. No one in the past two years has scored more than 18 (Ithaca). If Mount is to lose this game, I would guess the score will be in the 20’s. If SJF lets Mount score 31 as you predict, I doubt they will be going home happy. SJF played a very good game last year, and scored 14. If they play a great game this year, 21, maybe 24. Either way, i doubt that it will be enough to win.
Mainjack – until the game is played – you’re opinion is worth just as much as “deuces”.
It is laughable that the MUC’ers think life is such a given and that certain things are impossible to do –
we’ll all find out for sure Saturday afternoon..
we’ll all find out for sure Saturday afternoon.. We sure will SJF Fan…we sure will *S* GO RAIDERS!
can somebody KICK SJF FAN OFF THE BLOG? Everything he says is irrational and could be giving a lot of people the wrong impression of Fisher fans. I can appreciate his strong belief Fisher will win, but it just seems like he is trying to instigate and I can’t stand it. And I’m not saying this just as protection if we were to be blown out on Saturday, I would still maintain this even if we were to win.
Like I said before about the upcoming game. By all accounts Mount Union is better this year than last year and by my own personal account having seen about 10 games last year and 7 so far this year….Last year’s Fisher team was flat out better offensively, defensively this year’s team seems to be performing really well as of late but if Stepnick is not performing to his full potential our defense will be suffering dramatically because he changes everything we do on defense. I believe Fisher is a very good team this year, just not historically good like that version of Mount Union appears to be. If we play to what we are capable of (Kramer not over and under throwing all his receivers like he has done with increased frequency this year, Stepnick being able to play at full strength) no doubt we can hang with them and the chance of an upset could be there.
The only reason SJF Fan is here is because everyone keeps responding to his posts. Ignore D3knowitall, I mean SJF FAN, and he will go away.
Everything I have said is irrational? That’s bull – What specifically has been irrational that was not said in obvious jest???
Further, on SJF – on your OPINION that they are not as good as on off. as last year, the numbers don’t really back that up as they are avg. more points per game this season than they were last season. Given that we lost one of the best backs in D3 – I think that would suggest that we must have a monster o-line – would it not? or is that irrational as well???
Who are you to judge if someone’s opinions have anymore merit than yours???
dlippiel Says: November 28th, 2007 at 3:45 pm
The only reason SJF Fan is here is because everyone keeps responding to his posts.
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Not true – I’m here because I love the SJF program, and D3 in general. And this is a place where we are free to present how we feel and what we think. If you and your bruh booby never posted or replied to me ever again in my life, I’d still be here sharing my thoughts and what I believe . .
I believe that SJF can do, what apparently few others except the players themselves believe they can do – – win in Alliance.
ra24aider,
Now you not only want to choose your Stagg Bowl opponent, but you want to control the comments of other teams fans:
“I think you and your team(s) better worry about the opponants this week and next. Climbing the Mount should be the last thing on your mind right now. This is silly! We Mount fans can say just about anything about our team and coach because our team has the credentials to back it up.”
UWW may make it to the Stagg Bowl. They may not. I’m not assuming anything. Mount may make it to the Stagg Bowl, they may not. I am not disrespecting the entire field or their fans the way you are. My previous post simply pointed out that Mount is beatable and that you (not Mount Union, not other Mount Union fans, YOU) are arrogant. I hate to be the one to break it to you, (actually, I kind of like being the one to break it to you, but that sounds ..um..arrogant) but Mount Union’s prowess as a football team does not actually give you a greater freedom of speech than the rest of us enjoy. I can say it: Mount Union sucks! In fact, I may even get it printed up on a tee shirt and sell it to whoever gets the pleasure of playing you next. (Any SJF fans want to place an express order?) For all we know, Mount’s next game after Saturday may be next year! Oh that’s right, I should be addressing the Wabash fans this week. Wabash fans, dress warm (weather turned pretty cold), have a safe drive to Whitewater, and let’s enjoy a great D3 football game. Sorry, R24aider, haven’t seen any arrogance to respond to from those folks.
For those of you who think I’ve completely lost my mind, I’m aware that the Mount Union football team does not suck. But do you have any idea how fun it was to type that and say it out loud? i may have to make it the tagline in all my emails! Go ahead and try it, it’s fun!!
boobyhasgameyo Says:
November 28th, 2007 at 3:38 pm// . . . and could be giving a lot of people the wrong impression of Fisher fans.. .
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Booby you are insulting the intelligence level of everyone else on the boards with that statement. My name is Fan not Fans – meaning singular. Everyone I have had some dialogue with gets that.
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Also, blogs, posting comments sites etc. is a place to express opinions, middle of roaders (unless you are the moderator) is a place where no respect is earned. Take a stand. Do you think SJF can win or not? Have the guts to say so without the apologist, UN-like, hedging statements.
Either you’re in or out.
BiasD3FootballFan I just love it when someone just as yourself says well if the blocked punt didn’t happen the game would have been a lot closer. Have you stopped to think for a second that Whitewater had a big kickoff return? If you’re going to eliminate the block lets scratch that as well. Now Whitewater doesn’t score a touchdown since that resulted in their only TD drive, two plays, four yards. I don’t think Mount Union killed you guys but the argument like yours is just silly.
Ralph Turner
Please understand, I have read the statistics about MUC for the last five years and how many games they have won. I can’t argue with history, it is what it is. Do I think they are a good team, yes.
I went to the game last year in Alliance and had a great time even though we lost. The people/fans there were great.
My problem with the noise on this blog is that almost everyone speaking about the MUC – SJF game are pretty much assuming Fisher is exactly the same team as last year while MUC has gotten so much better. I believe both assumptions are a bit naive.
Now your last statement, lets break it down a bit. You believe Fisher will probably get stomped. Because Mount Union is so great. But if Fisher beats Mount Union, then immediately the other teams now would have an improved opportunity to get to the Stag Bowl.
My take on a win by Fisher would be they are better than Mount Union (this year) and the other teams remaining may have less chance to get to the Stag Bowl. So far, everything I have read pretty much puts Mount Union as basically unbeatable. So a Fisher win should put them in the same category for the playoffs. I believe this is to the tune of “You can’t have your cake and eat it too”.
So Ralph which is it?