So Keith McMillan and I were on the record as not being surprised at the eight teams which won in Saturday’s second round.
The margins of victory? Definitely a difference. Does it matter that Bethel/UW-Eau Claire was so close? Which conferences made big leaps forward in Week 12 and 13? Who leaves the second round of the playoffs disappointed and who leaves them with an optimistic outlook?
We’ve got two rematches and two new matchups. Now that we’re down to eight teams, who will benefit the most from the reshuffled bracket? And where will we find ourselves on Saturday?
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Keith,
I left a longer post in “Game Day from Regional Semifinals,” but Bethel – Central have 4 common opponents, not 2…BV, UST, Simpson, SJU…Central 4-0, Bethel 3-1
I’m expecting a showdown on Saturday in Pella
Good update on the podcast.
Another November comes to a close, and another year I am thankful that I played/follow/and fan of D3 football – a place where champions are decided ON THE FIELD! D1 facing another year where an undefeated team won’t have an opportunity to play for a championship and a whole slew of 1 and 2 loss teams lobbying a board room to get their multi million dollar pay day in a BS Bowl.
Can’t way for this weekend’s matchup
Remind me — the BS Bowl is played where again? Is that the Big Ten’s seventh team against the WAC’s No. 3? 🙂
what do you guys make of the third straight regional matchup between MHB and Wesley do you think Wesley has what it takes to pull out another win agiants the Cru
Listen to the podcast. 🙂
Okay….just my picks for the Semis….
Mount Union vs Central
Mary Hardin Baylor vs UWW
i think it is about time that wesley gets some respect for beating umhb 2 straight years!!! the question should not be does wesley have what it takes to pull out another win over the cru, but does the cru have what it takes to finally beat wesley. same teams, almost same personnel, what makes you think the results will be different?
I think I specified pretty clearly, actually, what led me to that belief. You did listen, I take it?
WESLEY HAS ALMOST NEVER GOTTEN ANY RESPECT FROM THE D3
FOLKS. THEY PICKED UMHB OVER WESLEY IN 2005 AND I THINK 2006. UMHB MAY BEAT WESLEY IN 2007, BUT WHAT DOES IT MEAN, THEY ARE BOTH GREAT TEAMS. IN MY OPINION THERE ARE NOT MANY GOOD TEAMS IN D3, MAY BE SIX. GOOD LUCK TO ONE AND ALL THIS WEEKEND.
pat, i did listen and your point is no different than the one i have made several times when it comes to wesley’s offense, can the qb get the job done? i think keith also stated that schatz has improved as the year has gone on. my comment is about umhb and their offense, they did not move the ball very well last year and wesley’s defense is better against the run this year. umhb returns 4 lineman, thrasher and welch. the run the same offense so it will be interesting to see if they can run the ball. if not, it has been mentioned here by several people that if they have to throw the ball they may be in trouble.
relax wesleydad, you’re going to get to see 2 excellent teams this weekend…the one player that you have omitted is quincy daniels. despite the terrible weather conditions he put up excellent numbers(38 degrees driving rain). he was a workhorse, and carried the load after thrasher left in the 1st qtr(ankle?)….
this team has had 2 seasons this year: before and after UWW. its the after that should concern all the remaining teams. the CRU is all business ie. jersey tucked in, respect for the opposition(except on the scoreboard) and a maturity level you only achieve after being beaten by a team you were supposed to beat…the CRUs’ businees like determination is going to be tough to beat….Good Luck
What I think is going to be interesting to see is the Wesley and UMHB ground attack. If you look at both team’s rushing stats they look alot alike:
-Wesley averages 261.3 rushing yards per game. UMHB allows 36.2 rushing yards per game. Wesley has scored 30 rushing touchdowns. UMHB has allowed 9 rushing touchdowns.
-UMHB averages 382.4 rushing yards per game. Wesley allows 88.8 rushing yards per game. UMHB has scored 63 rushing touchdowns. Wesley has allowed 12 rushing touchdowns.
I really think the key to this game is if Wesley can stop UMHB rushing offense. If they can, then UMHB will have some trouble trying to get a passing offense going. If Wesley can get it going offensively through the air then UMHB will have some defensive troubles:
-Wesley averages 224.9 passing yards per game. UMHB allows 229.2 passing yards per game. Wesley has scored 25 passing touchdowns. UMHB has allowed 16 passing touchdowns.
-UMHB averages 144.1 passing yards per game. Wesley allows 169.9 passing yards per game. UMHB has scored 22 passing touchdowns. Wesley has allowed 10 passing touchdowns.
Also something to think about…UMHB has lost their leading reciever (Patrick Oliver, 6-7, with 560 yards receiving and 12 touchdowns) to a torn ACL.
I have seen UMHB play since my freshman year (the 2004 Stagg Bowl Runner-Up Team) and I really think that this year’s team is better then the past couple of years. So it should be interested to see what happens. It should be an amazing game, wish I could afford to make it to the game.
Also, just as a side note… I have a question that I would like to hear other D3 Football fan’s opinions on. Spectator conduct. I know that sportsmanship announcements are made at the beginning and during NCAA sporting events (required by the NCAA), and I know that it is up to the host school’s game manager to deal with unruly fans. My question is…Is there problems at other D3 universities with both home and visiting fans shouting obscenities at players, officials, and other fans? Throughout this season I have noticed it more then ever. Sometimes it is so bad you can hear it across the field in the upper sections of the stadium. Is it really bad other places, or do us Texans really make everyone that mad?
We have a separate recent topic on that:
http://www.d3football.com/dailydose/2007/11/15/support-participants-in-a-positive-manner/
Sorry about the Central/Bethel common opponents, that’s too much off the top of the head, not enough research. We’ll make sure the writers get it right this week. Have features planned on both.
As for Wesley getting no respect from the D3 folks, wah-wah.
First, they get a ton of respect from us, in the rankings, face-to-face, etc. What you mean to say is that UMHB was perceived to be better than Wesley the past two years and that turned out not to be the case.
The 46-36 game in Texas was an upset, no shame in picking UMHB there. UMHB was a Stagg Bowl team the year before and Wesley was a playoff upstart.
Last year, UMHB’s 7-3 game against Whitewater, which dominated Wesley the year before (and again later), greatly influenced the perception of the Cru’s strength. I would probably make that pick again today.
As for this year, the past two results weigh heavily on my mind, even though some key personnel have changed. UMHB has been ultra-dominant in every game but UW-W, which is a non-factor comparing them to Wesley. But Wesley plays well in Dover and has tested itself with a very strong schedule this season, so they’re battle tested.
I think these two teams’ speed is a wash and depth is a wash. It’s easy to say the game will be won up front, or with turnovers … those can apply to most games.
I will have to go back and study the factors in the past two games. If I recall correctly, turnovers were a huge factor in the win in Texas. I think Beavers had a huge game then too. Last year, getting ahead really helped, but UMHB still made it a game until the late fumble return TD. But Warrick played really well, and Drass reminded me of that this week. He was all over UMHB’s blitzes, the hot reads, and the UMHB D couldn’t really get the pressure on Wesley. Covering those WRs for long periods of time usually doesn’t produce a good results.
I think both of these teams respect each other a lot, apparently more than the fans do.
A lot has changed even though much of the lineups are the same. Both teams are three tailbacks deep and can go with a change-of-pace back. Huntbach is out and Mario Harris is gone, so it’s not the same run D that stopped UMHB last year. Kubiak is gone for UMHB, Daniels plays a major role now and Schatz is a different QB than Warrick. And oh yeah, Larry Beavers is back.
My initial thought is that if Wesley’s OL can control UMHB’s smaller-but-faster defense, they might have their way. The Wolverines, for all their receiving prowess, actually gain more yards rushing. If they can achieve that balance again, the offense is bound to have a good day. If UMHB can rattle Schatz, or stop the run, different story.
Sounds like UMHB MLB Eric Henri was fine last week and should play again this week. Having Trasher healthy would help the Cru, but they’re without 6-foot-7 WR Patrick Oliver, who was really good when I saw him vs. HSU and is (or was) to UMHB what Wesley hopes Teron Murray will someday be.
If one were to use NCWC results (common opponent) as a measuring stick, picking against Wesley again would not be without reason. If one were to look at results from previous seasons that basically have no bearing on this season, picking Wesley would be a no-brainer.
I’m still undecided. I think both teams can do damage to the other. It’ll probably be Saturday’s best game, although you never know.
On Wesley’s respect level – it is a top program. You don’t score wins over UMHB and advance as far as you do in the playoffs not being one. I think the reason why those that may be unfamilar with your program don’t want to be (speaking for me only) is that when you do lose in the playoffs it is been by huge margins.
So, from a respect standpoint – I think it can only go so far when there is that big of a gap.
Now on to what will prove to be the biggest surprise of the weekend game: SJFC at MUC
Saw a replay of the IC game. They moved the ball on MUC all game. Three scoring drives, plus to drives that ended with INT’s in the endzone. IC was the third place team in the E8. . . Translation: Fisher will move the ball and put points up on this team to level that most of you here refuse to think is possible – – –
D3keith:
Nice job on the Wesley/UMHB analysis. Shows how much you understand the ins and outs of D3.
Larry Beavers killed UMHB in 2005. UMHB double teamed Marcus Lee and Larry ran wild. His stats were something like 5 catches for 200+ yards and three long TDs. I was at the game in 2006 and I thought it was one of the best games I ever saw. Two good teams going head to head. Remember, Warrick fumbled on the first play last year that UMHB returned for a fumble and UMHB’s QB fumbled after getting ‘jacked up” in that same game which Wesley returned for a TD. I have seen ever Wesley game except Brockport this year and all of them last year. You are correct, they are a completely differ team this year. Much more balanced. It should be a great game.
The NCWC was Schatz’s first trip under center. He is a different player now but still prone to mistakes on reads and throws. He threw three red zone picks in the MCS game, the only game Wesley lost. I hope all that is behind him and that Jackson, etc. have another big day.
Since you picked against Wesley the last two years you may be our good luck charm so a UMHB pick might be in our favor.
By the way, I never cry just try to point out what happened.
This is a really interesting thread. I started watching Wesley last year, being a neighborhood football fan needing a home team…. So I am a real late comer here.
A couple things I noticed this year for Wesley that marks a distinct difference. Obviously with Warrick gone, a lot of the magic of the passing game left with him. It’s been hard for Schatz to shed his reciever mentality and put the ball where it needs to go. Thankfully, it hasn’t resulted in too many short balls. As a result, Wesley has consistently started slow and built momentum as Schatz gets his passing arm warmed up and the Offensive line finds the lanes for the runners, pretty much opposite of last year. Luckily, Schatz is starting to use his legs more, which is paying off.
Turnovers have kept a lot of games close for Wesley as well. This was really evident at the start of the season, leading directly to the loss to Monclair State. Wesley’s ball discipline really improved over the second half of the season, however, that nasty bugger showed up for Muhlenberg with 2 fumbles giving the Mules the short field.
Now comes the real saving grace for Wesley: the defense. They repeatedly shut down opposing offenses when it really counted. Sure, their focus got lost in quite a few games when the lead got decent, but they hold the line. Judging by UMHB’s running vs passing stats, you would think that Wesley should do well if they hold the run. However, Mulhenberg passed the ball quite a bit in the first half and used that to establish the run, keeping the game an extremely close affair until the big plays came in. Will UMHB adjust their game plan to disrupt Wesley’s defence? Why run into a wall when you can run around it?
There is really no way we can assume either team’s dominance in this Saturday’s game. The trip for UMHB has to be taken into consideration as it was for NCWC, however. People wrote off Muhlenberg, but they really impressed me in the first half. But, again, you have to be there for both halves to win a game. Will UMHB be there for the second half?? I know Wesley will be….
I digress…. Either way, it will be very interesting to see what happens.
-Ski
SJF
After you saw the IC film, did you watch the New Jersey film? Mount let the country know that what happened in the IC game will never happen again. It’s a shame that The lions had to be the scape goat. Trust what I say, Mount knows how tough SJF is and that makes the Purple Raiders all the more dangerous. (If that’ possible).
I forgot to add that I would have loved to have seen a UMHB/WJC matchup. That would have a really been a telling game. But, of course, that is why D3 has a playoff. To bad the fools who run D1 cannot get the message. Wouldn’t you love to see how “real” Hawaii is during a playoff???????
did I see TCNJ no – I don’t know if they replay it on their web or not – don’t really care though, they weren’t an E8 team.
SJF’s O-Line is a lot better than it was last year, and are way, way better than IC’s. Even after losing one of the best backs in D3 last year, as a team, are avg. more points than last year per game. MUC’s D-Line should be ready (I’m sure they will be) for their longest afternoon in a couple of years.
Teamski:
I like your post, it sheds some light on the subject. But I do want to respond to your last question. “Will UMHB be there for the second half??”
SCORE BY QUARTERS 1st 2nd 3rd 4th Total
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Mary Hardin-Baylor.. 140 219 209 105 -673
Opponents……….. 55 52 35 59 – 201
UMHB outscores their opponents 209 to 35 in the third quarter and 105 to 59 in the fourth (mainly because the score is so high they put in their 2nd and third stringers).
Score by quarters 1st 2nd 3rd 4th Total
Wesley 84 129 124 120 457
Opponents 50 75 32 45 202
It might look like Wesley could have trouble in the first quarter, just based off of these stats. After the first quarter it looks like Wesley is pretty balanced the rest of the game.
R24Raider, TCNJ does not have a very good O at all, their D has been the main reason for their success. I don’t think TCNJ O is a good comparison to IC O or SJF O. I think MUC wil be pretty fired up though I hope SJF can make a good showing.
umbhfella, one thing to look at this week is the quarterback position and how schatz comes out to start the game. all the games i have seen this year he has come out to fired up and makes some bad passes to start the game but once he settles down he can put the ball almost anywhere he wants to. also it seems like in the last two games wesley came out and started slow 7-7 halftime (38-21 final) last week and 17-3 (45-17 final) halftime against hampden-sydney 3-0 HS end of first quarter. if they start out slow again against umhb they might not have a shot in this game unless there defense makes big plays. if they come out and play like they did in the second half of last weeks game and hold on to the ball they have a really good shot to win the game.
dlippiel –
SJF if going to do way more than make a good showing.
dlippiel,
Mount hung 59 on “the main reason for their success.” And 42 on IC. What I don’t understand is during the season everybody wants to bash Mount for competing in the “weak” OAC. So, the number one team in the nation gets moved to the east. Now, they’re lambasting everyone in that region and still these opponents aren’t worthy. IC and TCNJ were good football teams. Probably would have pushed any other team to the limit. Mount destroyed UWW in the Stagg Bowl two years in a row (and as I recall UWW is pretty solid). When will the the rest of D3 supporters realize that Mount doesn’t play in a weak conferance. They are not lucky. They don’t sneak in pro or div. I athletes each weak, and they are NOT a DIV II team playing in DIII. They are simply the best coached team in the country with players who will not compromise fundamentals at any cost. NO MAGIC!
r24aider~~~~~~~~~good post………..
R24aider – TCNJ is not of E8 quality. And as bad as the beating that MUC gave them, TCNJ still managed to put more points on the board than 7 of the 8 OAC teams MUC faced this season – go figure.
The most highly slurped player at MUC is a product of the E8 (Garcon).
And the third place team in the E8 drove the ball on IC “all day long” according to everyone (MUC fans) that watched the game.
SJF’s O-Line and offense in general is of higher quality than IC and of all the other teams MUC has seen in ’07 thus far. . .
You’re right, MUC has beat up UWW the last two years – wake up, the prior two years don’t win today’s games and they’re not at the Stagg – they’re still in the Regionals and are facing a team that was one of their hardest opponents in two years and is improved over last.
SJF Fan,
You have got to be kidding me! Not of E8 quality? I, by no means mean to bash other teams in the E8, but WHAT QUALITY? You are trying to compare an entire conferance with a Nine, count em, Nine time National Champion! (soon to be 10). If you need to be reminded of the strength of the E8 and OAC, just look at the front page of the D3 website. Now, I’ll give you this, if SJF is planning on bringing the entire conferance Saturday to Alliance to help them, then Mount might, be in trouble. By the way, Capital has been one of Mounts toughest opponents the last two years. Hardly, SJF. SJF lost to Hartwick, and how long did they last this year? Pierre left that conferance to win a championship or 3, because lord knows nobody in the powerful E8 will win one.
Good Luck Saturday and may the best team win.
R24Raider I was not knocking MUC. I was simply pointing out that statisitically speaking TCNJ is not a strong offensive team hence the comparison to IC ‘s O is not very applicable.
r24raider – I said TCNJ is not of E8 quality.
Just thinking about it, MUC would be a nice addition to the E8 though. And with Norwich leaving the door is open if MUC is looking for an upgrade in weekly comp. . .
hoping it is obvious – joking on the 2nd part of that last post.
Back to talking smack I see SJF fan…
The truth is Mount Union and the Raider fans dont need your respect…
We’ve got nine national championships in the last eleven years that proves the program knows how to win…And youre right, the prior two years dont win today’s games…our defense will though….just as last year’s close game doesnt mean SJF will still be in Sat’s game by halftime….by the way, I know Garcon is great…but if I were you Id be concerned about Nate Kmic a little too…ran all over the SJF D last year, and if we have success throwing the ball on Saturday,open up the field a little, he’ll do it again….and even if these two teams were evenly matched, and they’re not, but if they were…id still take Larry Kehres over any coach in the nation…SJF is more familiar now, and they’ll have the game plan in place and ready to go…you go ahead and talk your smack the rest of the week…. and I would hope SJF’s O is better than anything MUC has seen this year…it would be disappointing not to see better competition in the regionals for heavens sake…this week the Raiders will show you just how good they are, since nothing else seems to do it….
SJF,
The thing you seem to be forgetting is that Mount has seen your team before. They exploited your run defense last year, and with a healty Garcon this year they will exploit more than that. Like I’ve said before, Kehres is the best coach in D3 and always finds the weakness in his opponent. It’s not Mount’s defense you should be concerned with, it’s your defense you should be very, very, very worried about. If they can’t at least slow down Kmic it will be ugly.
Your prediction that Mount wouldn’t go through the east like it did the OAC hasn’t come about. So far the tally is Mount 101 East 25. Probably will be looking at a similar score this weekend instead of the score Mount won by last year.
TDD – the tally (meaningless) is that after two games the east has put more points than the OAC in 9.
I think you and MUCnash, have a conversation in your head then project, then type replies to items I never actually posted. Did I ever say Kehres was not the best? Did I ever say I didn’t know how many Nat Titles you guys have won? And I’ve already said about 2 dozen times that MUC is the best until someone beats them – – which will happen on Saturday BTW.
So relax – no one is disrespecting anybody (except for TCNJ it seems). MUC is the best and is the best team any other team has faced (UWW? perhaps). SJF will be by far the best MUC has seen this year. IC was the third place team in the E8 and moved the ball on MUC all game long. These really aren’t in dispute are they??
And on the, now that MUC has seen them, they’ll be more ready for them theory – that maybe true – it is a two way equation though and are you that naive to think SJF won’t be better prepared??
Its going to be a great Saturday!
TDD – one more thing – on your Kmic assessment – I agree totally. Kmic put in one of the best performances I ever saw a back put in on one team in one game in last year’s semi’s. He’s a hard charger for sure.
ALL MOUNT UNION FANS:
Everyone there in Alliance, OH seem to be pretty cocky. I would expect fans and followers of MUC to be a little more respectful than that. Oh Well, I guess that is what you get from people that are ignorant.
Let’s take a serious look at this game.
1. Mount Union is the best team in DIII football as we speak. But that doesn’t mean that they can not be beaten. Do not put them on a pedastal like they are some untouchable team.
2. SJF is by far a better team this year than they were last year. Rob Kramer has a little more experience, the offensive line is vastly improved, and the defense is also improved from last year.
3. There is all this talk about comparing previous opponents and looking at each others conference. Throw that stuff right out the window. This is the playoffs, a different season, anything can happen. Take LSU for instance, back at #1, suppose to be that team that wins the National Championship, LOST!!!
So please, don’t be so arrogant to think you team can not be beat, THEY CAN BE, and my prediction is that they WILL BE..
I am neither a MUC follower or a SJF follower, but from my view, I see SJF prevailing in this matchup:
Mount Union 31
St. John Fisher 42
SJF,
I know you’ve never said anything disrespectful about Kehres,but you are in a way disrespecting Mount by saying they play in a weak conference. Just because the first two opponents put a couple of points on the board doesn’t mean they gave Mount any more resistance than any OAC team. You were the one who said Mount was going to be tested. Did you mean tested on the football field or in the classroom because if those were test on the football field then I would say they get an A++++++++++. SJF may throw 14 on the board but when they give up 49 will that still be considered a stiff test. I would say no matter which conference they are in they would be a dominating team.
SJF Fan is just this year’s version of the guy we see every year. After Saturday we probably won’t see him again…or…he’ll be here to make excuses.
Same tired old record plays nearly every year.
SJF Fan Says:
November 27th, 2007 at 9:24 am
Now on to what will prove to be the biggest surprise of the weekend game: SJFC at MUC
Saw a replay of the IC game. They moved the ball on MUC all game. Three scoring drives, plus to drives that ended with INT’s in the endzone. IC was the third place team in the E8. . . Translation: Fisher will move the ball and put points up on this team to level that most of you here refuse to think is possible – – –
I guess when you look hard enough you can see anything you want. Two int’s in the endzone? Are you sure you were watching the right game? Just asking. Ithaca played a good game. I’m sure they’d say they could have played better. St. John’s will need to play better than that and I don’t know if they will and neither do you and your continuously telling us they will is a bit old.
Will you be around next week? And no moral victories right? By the way you talk nothing less than beating the Raiders will do, do I have that right?
SJF fan,
Fisher’s ride to Salem will end in Alliance….end of story.
And the only imagination at work on this board is yours…for several weeks now.
I only brought up Kehres and the 9 titles b/c your comments reflect that you forgot…And it does work both ways….fisher will be prepared as well…it also works both ways regarding level of competition. MUC will be the best D, the best O, the best coaching SJF has seen since last year’s game. Will Fisher be better prepared? It wont matter.
Ric and Bucks – you are correct – I am very biased. And Ric – yes, I personally do not believe in moral victories – play to win – period end of story.
On the IC game – I think I also said that I was clearly using law of small samples to form my opinion. Obviously the benefit of having a playoff is we get to see if our gut feelings were correct or if way off base. And as I have said all along – if I’m wrong – I’ll admit it – I don’t see a problem with that.
Ric – you may not have seen my very first post after the announced pairings of the NCAA’s which was “I always wondered how MUC would do if it had to play in the East on a weekly basis – now I get a chance to find out”. I pointed out that MUC’s avg margin of victory in ’07 over the OAC was 51-1 and that I just didn’t think that would happen in the East region. Given D3 doesn’t have national TV exposure its not like I get a chance to view games, only what’s on the web and interpretation from available stats – so, I think it is fair to wonder that no?
Me posting that thought was interpreted as disrespect etc. etc. etc. Its not – I’ll repeat it one more time in case it has been mod’ed out: MUC is the best, and remains the best until proven otherwise. My strong belief (hope) is: that happens this Saturday.
ric,
SJF Fan is too chicken to answer anything that will nail him down to having to stick to a position/prediction…arent you SJF?
WOW … Good job Wesley followers and Keith. I guess I don’t have to carry the Wesley banner alone anyore!
Teamski
Great observations.
Piperarcher
I disagree though that Wesley doesn’t get any respect here. There are always posters that say things just to get someones ire up. I think Pat and Keith have given good assessments of what they see.
I think that a lot of people see the scores and assume Wesley isn’t the team they were the last couple years. Well they aren’t!! The Offense has changed from a pass first, second and third and then run a little too run half the time pass half the time. A combination that has helped keep the Defense fresh and off the field for long periods of time. The quick score ability is still there and Schatz has the arm to make the big play. Teams that Wesley played this year have some good defenses. And it took a while for Wesley to find it’s new identity
wow…SJF you did answer it…good for you…
SJF Fan I just dont’ think comparing the East as a general statement to the OAC when what you are actually doing is comparing the playoff teams from the East the entire OAC is illogical, at least to me. How does Ithaca stack up against the OAC this year? In my opinion, well. How will St. John Fisher? I think equally well. How does the entire East? Not as well. The only OAC team that made the playoffs lost to Mount Union 37-0 and so far the East is averaging 50.5 to 12.5, an average of 38 pts a game, pretty much the same. Is that logical? No, but more so than lumping everyone as you keep doing.
TDD Says:
November 27th, 2007 at 4:37 pm
SJF,
I know you’ve never said anything disrespectful about Kehres,but you are in a way disrespecting Mount by saying they play in a weak conference”
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On Post Patterns, a lot of MUC fans have been implying all season long that OAC has had an off year in ’07. And after the IC game, there were quotes from fans that saw that game like: it was nice to see a real game, been waiting all season long, etc. etc.”
So I just picked up on their comments, backed by available stats (avg. score 51-1) and came to a conclusion on OAC (for ’07 only). I don’t think that takes away from MUC. Especially if they continue to roll the brackets like its nobody’s business .
– I like SJF’s chances this week.
deuces,
If I am not mistaking, Mount did lose. ONCE. In the last 400yrs or so! You are absolutely ridiculous. The reason Mount is as good as they are is because every week the coaches led by “The KING” make sure every player on Mounts team, all 210, know that they can be beat by each weeks opponant. Hence, they do not take anyone lightly, and they don’t make too many mistakes. It’s you outsiders that think our players and fans take winning for granted. You see, WINNING is a way of life at Mount, not just something you try and do on Saturday’s. Get it, yet. That is what separates US from the rest of the world!! Please, if your not a Mount follower, how would you know anything about the fans or team. Later.
R24aider-
You are joking right? Mount Union destroyed Whitewater the last two years? Wow, I could be wrong but last time I checked winning by 7 and 19 isn’t exactly destroying another team. And the 19 point difference really is decieving, I believe Whitewater only trailed by 1 at the half and if that blocked punt wouldn’t have occured who knows how the game would have turned out, but we can’t do anything about that now.
I have lots and lots of respect for the Mount Union program because they are a dynasty and everyone is looking to knock them off. That being said Raider fans you are getting way too cocky. You do realize that you’re not unbeatable right? Every football team has a weakness, some bigger than others, but if a team figures out how to exploit it they could *gasp* lose.
As a big time Whitewater fan I hope Mount Union gets back to the Stagg Bowl and I’m sure most of the Warhawks fans and players feel the same way. I want my second ride back from Salem to be much sweeter than my first. But both teams will have to take care of business first, as I said earlier good luck to all 8 teams this weekend. Hopefully we won’t see anymore blowouts this week.