OK,
So someone will post later with a fancier, more well-thought-out writeup, but until then, here are some reactions to the games in progress and early scores coming in.
St. Olaf’s not yet in St. John’s class. Period.
Same could be said of Mount Union and ONU this year, although I imagine that’s mostly a function of the Polar Bears having not much of the same team that won 21-14 in Alliance last year. Only five starters returned this fall. Still, 49-7 is a big swing. Wonder if the Purple Raiders were looking to make a statement, and I wonder if any of the three voters with UWW No. 1 will swing their vote this week.
Juniata up 27-3 over Susque in the 4th. Tri-State almost joining them on the long-losing-streak broken bandwagon, but they can’t catch a break. They fell in 2 OTs.
We got 10-7 Hardin-Simmons at the half in Texas … sounds about right.
In the Liberty, Union over WPI in a one-point squeaker, while RPI falls to St. Lawrence. Someone on the blog earlier in the week (Cortland?) said the LL didn’t look “down” so much this year as it looked more even across the board. Early results from today support that.
I’m sure there’s more to take note of, and there will be as the day rolls along, My babies just woke up from naps simultaneously, so I gotta roll anyway.
Discuss.
The fourth quarter of the Union/WPI game will be remembered for a very long time by those fortunate enough to have been in attendance. That WPI went for the win with a two pointer after their brilliant comeback was a good gamble. They seemed to be having their way with Union’s inconsistent defense. But it was Union’s two pointer minutes earlier which proved to be the margin of victory. The moth that is Union was almost consumed by the flame that was WPI.
dea,
I know you have inside information. Word is that Angiletta is coming back. Can you confirm and if so when?
Looking at a 1-4 Ferrum team just puts a bitter taste in your mouth. I firmly believe Ferrum could easily be 5-0 right now. Other than the Bridgewater and Shenendoah game, Ferrum just has not been able to put it together. There’s just no excuse for the players or coaches to be 1-4 after the first half of the season. As I said earlier, Coach Davis better start sitting some of the seniors and play more of the freshmen and sophomores.
dukefinadv,
I may not have been there, but I wouldn’t say I missed it. I purchased Sunday Ticket for this season, mostly because my job actually allows me to be home some Sundays for once, but the more I think about it, that was a helluva leap of faith. Yet despite what all those outsiders who never watched an Eagles game felt, we knew T.O. was a very small part of the reason the birds have had so much success and they’d be better off without him and with all they had coming back. I had ’em pegged for 10-6 this year based on a division split (3-3) and the easy early schedule, but I could see them winning one or two more than that if they stay healthy.
Anyway, back to D3 stuff. Thanks for getting my back people. I’ll engage anyone once, to see if they’re really after a serious discussion, but if they keep up with the uninformed clown act, it’s best to ignore them. I can’t see how anyone from St. John’s, Rowan, Bridgewater or Mount Union sees a lack of praise for their team on this site, and yet I’ve received “hater” complaints from all of them recently. I know the few don’t speak for the mass of classy fans, so as long as we are comfortable with how fair we’re being, I’d rather reserve my time for the legitimate comments, complaints and requests for help on the blog and in my inbox.
The LL definitely appears to be a slugfest, along with the NJAC, IIAC and a couple other leagues. HCAC maybe. MIAA, as usual.
I guess we’ll be tackling some of that in this week’s ATN, just thought I’d get it out there.
On Monday, Mike Emendoerfer, The UWP Head Coach, said 5 UWL Players left the field and may not play against UWL this Saturday. Too bad, I hate injuries and want to have the best beat the best. Anyone know something more about this?God Bless!
runferrum…..what kind of since does it make to sit seniors and play freshmen and sophmores who have never played a college football game?? exactly which seniors would u sit? the main problem with their offense now is the lack of experienced personnel?? and as far as defense, they are playing great defense….so why sit seniors who have experience for underclassmen that don’t? that just seems to be creating a larger problem
I love the Ferrum Panthers to death, but they ain’t gonna make no playoffs this year. So…mov’in on to team number 2. Yep, that’s right the Coast Guard Bears! There playing good ball, and if it comes down to SAT scores…they’ll put some whoop as on all of D3. Come back!
Hey Duke,
How is being up 11pts with 2 to go a possible blowout going the other way? Again, not to live in the past, but were you at the game? Lets kill this topic though and move on…
hate getting in the middle of a good argument, but I was at the game and the fact is Fisher was up by 8 with 3 min to go. DelVal had a 12 – 3 lead early on and didn’t add to the lead mainly because of the kicking situation and Fisher was very opportunistic – taking a 13 -12 lead midway through 3rd quarter and the seemingly “dagger in the heart” score late in the 4th. When you evaluate the yardage and understand the situation with the place kicker, that’s why the argument is there for the “possible blowout going the other way” Now we can kill this topic!
The SJF-Del Val thing started with a remark about SJF dominating.
They may have been in position to close the thing out (I remember listening to the broadcast and being stunned at the third-down pick), but they most certainly did not dominate if they were outgained by 300-400 yards. The no DV kicker thing is very relevant to this particular point.
What would the kicker have done, rushed for 100 yards making the total yardage 700-200 instead of 600-200…lol….ok fine I actually started the whole thing by pointing out to Mr. Saxson that Fisher had only lost 5 out of its last 29 games and could easily have won 3 of them….so props to Del Val they were a great team that year even though the 7th and 8th graders I coach have a back-up kicker.
Ferrum’s problems are common problems with numerous D3 schools.
-They are not a state supported school- thus much higher tuition rates.
-Numerous D3 start-ups have popped up in the VA/NC area in the last 10 years- to go along with the tons of D1, 1AA, and D2 schools in the area.
-While they bring in more than enough freshman each year- for numerous reasons- they cannot keep the majority of kids in the program for more than 2 years.
-They don’t get those 1 or 2 D1 transfers that make a difference- kids can now transfer from D1 to IAA or DII without sitting out a year. They use to come to Ferrum to play for Coach Norton.
Combine these factors- and it’s a crap shoot each year on what type of chemistry and heart the team will have….
It’s a fair point about the kicker, but to my knowledge the back-up (whoever he was) was not trusted … Suffice it to say, Coach Mangus had made up his mind, right or wrong, that kicking was not an option and honestly, it cost him at least 2 extra points and 2 field goals … Hey, I hope those two teams make it this year and try to top that game … Best 5 bucks I ever spent!!!
Aggie,
I agree about Cards-Aggies meeting again, except unfortunately it cost me a little more than 5 bucks as I have to drive from Rochester and last time I blew a tire in Syracuse on the interstate in the dark, with my wife and 2 year old son…shoulda saw how the game was going to turn out then and u-turned it home…nice little town though and would be back in a heartbeat though we would like to see ‘Aggie fans’ in our house this time around…
SJFF82 – I told myself that I wasn’t going to do this but AHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
SJFF82 wrote on October 8 @5:52pm….”last second loss to Del Valley in the second round of NCAA’s after dominating the game”. I was there and the stats that Gordon wrote about on October 9@12:21am were correct to the yard.
SJFF82 wrote on October 10 @ 10:35pm…..”let’s kill this topic though and move on”.
D3Keith states more facts on October 10 @ 11:59pm.
SJFF82 wrote on October 11 @ 7:57am something about having backup kickers on his 7th and 8th grade team. If you are a very good high school kicker, you are typically getting a free education somewhere at a higher level. I’ve seen D3 kickers and punters for years and there is a reason that they are not represented on NFL rosters…….and these would seem to be the two positions where your level of college play would not matter if you are that good. Backup kickers at the D3 level……..maybe Mount Union has 10 of them in their 228 player program but it is the D3 exception and not the rule!!
SJFF82…….you should spend a weekend in the Doylestown area. Town and Country magazine just put this special area in Southeastern PA on it’s 20 Most Beautiful Places To Live In The U.S.A. I’ll take you to dinner….my treat!!!
I have been a Ferrum Fan since I graduated 4 years ago. I really feel Ferrum could be 5-0 right now but their 1-4. They would have to win out and hope Averett and CNU loose twice to force a coin toss for the playoff spot. The odds are more on the none than slim for a playoff berth. I watched the Bridgewater game a felt it was a turning point for Ferrum but I was wrong again. Ferrum had the talent to win this year yet thier inexperience (I thought that would be a minor problem earlier in the year) has come to haunt them. The defense is giving up 24 points a game, hardly great. If you want great defense look at CNU, who has played a much tougher schedule than Ferrum. Coach Davis should start playing under classmen more to allow them to get real game experience to help the squad in the Future. Just look at Ferrum best two players in Pitts and Silk, four year starters, what if they had not played till their 2nd or 3rd season? Would Ferrum have won the title last year? I am just saying once a season is lost start preparing for the next.
Duke,
I dont get your point. I acknowledged to Gordon that his stats were right…I was at the game, were you? I didnt think I needed to explain every word in my email like I am on trial but when I said that Fisher dominated the game I meant on the scoreboard…they did have the lead and the ball with minutes to go. You have now disected and re-disected my email days later and still have not made a point that makes any sense or that hasnt already been acknowledged by someone.
As far as kickers go, what D3 program did you play for and what D3 experience do you have other than disecting people’s blogs and pounding your chest….”AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH” The 7th and 8th graders that I referred to were the kids I currently coach…disect it again…and we do infact have two kickers on a 19 kid roster so certainly DEL VAL had another student-ath that coulda kicked the ball through the uprights…in any event I was just kiddin with Aggie fan about the situation…and he didnt seem to get too upset…but you????
And did I say anything bad about Doylestown????????? I said it was a nice little town and would go back in a heartbeat…
You dont have to beat your self up to make a point …maybe you should read my blog above 26 more times
Wow, let’s not berate each other over a game that happened what?……2 years ago? History is a mystery and the future is unknown. The topic is “Immediate Reactions to week 6” Not “Thoughts on Playoff Games Two Years Ago” Come on people. Grow up a bit and talk some real football.
SJFF82 – You started the entire mess (as attested to by Gordon and Keith) and I’m prepared to finish with this. My offer to take you to dinner in Doylestown was sincere…..but if Del Val even gets in and plays Fisher, you will not be heading down here, I’ll be heading North. Just being realistic!!
And because you asked, here goes…….Honors major in Economics at Swarthmore (now, you want to talk about bad football when we even had a program!!!)…….Masters in Econ at Univ of Penn and a Wharton M.B.A.
I’m from Doylestown and have adopted Del Val (and it’s adopted me……I give my $$$ to DVC….Swarthmore doesn’t need it!!).
And BDTartan, you’re right on one hand about talking some real football……but take the positive out of it that there are some people on this planet who even care enough to pour their hearts, souls and emotions into D3 football. My Penn State buddies think that I’m a nut and ask me if I also follow synchronized swimming…..they just don’t get the purity (at most D3 schools) of student first / second / third and athlete fourth!!
Duke: HERE’S TO A FISHER -DEL VAL REMATCH….I’LL TAKE YOU TO DINNER IN THE ROC(hester)…ever heard of a garbage plate?
SJFF82 – Thanks for the reciprocated dinner offer and I’ll take you up on it if Del Val travels to Fisher. Pretty neat…..you have a fine dining establishment called The Garbage Plate and we have one down the road called The Dump (no dump though…….entrees run $35 to $50). It’s cool that a quaint town like Doylestown and a thriving metropolis like Rochester can have the same type of restaurant ideas!! I’ll save your dime though, with a freshmen QB, I don’t think Del Val is making the playoffs this year.
Oh, I know what you mean duke. Other than my close friends from high school who either played at Mount or still attend Mount think I am crazy. But then again, my brother plays at Carnegie. Surprisingly enough, after watching two years of D3 football I actually find it more enjoyable to watch because these kids aren’t fat-head athletes with big time scholarships. They’re FOOTBALL players who wanted an education and a chance to strap it up a couple more times.