Stagg Bowl vs. Orange Bowl

Here’s something impossible to do. Let’s compare the experience I had between the Stagg Bowl and Orange Bowl.

I’ll stick to the tailgating and fan experience. You can read about the game on ESPN.com I just read the Andrew Reed column naming Stone Station as the runner up for best tailgate. I must agree. Although my comparisons were limited to CNU tailgates, which were unique since I was fortunate enough to tailgate with families of two players, a Virginia Tech game in a monsoon on a Thursday night against Boston College (the other BC), and finally the Orange Bowl.

The intensity in the parking lot at the Orange Bowl was more evident. I think this was due to the sheer number of fans in attendance. I was in a predominately VT parking lot. However there were a few token Kansas fans. Tailgates consisted mostly of a few tents and grills. Impressive, since fans had to travel more than 1,000 miles to get there. Many rental cars were adorned with turkey heads and VT magnets.

A large black Denali pulled up next to us with many accessories. The parking lot at Dolphin Stadium was very tailgate friendly. The VT fans in the Denali were not. At first, when they pulled about and started unloading, I had memories of Stone Station at the Stagg Bowl as they unloaded food, grills and tables. The memories faded quickly. The Denali owner was more into status, such as a Tracvision on his truck and a wide screen TV that ran on generator power and retracted into his vehicle somewhere.

Apparently, this guy flies to the games and has an employee drive the truck to the games. I wasn’t impressed. They were a little snobbish and not very friendly. The Stone Station guys were more into sharing fun with everyone around. It didn’t matter who you were, just stop by, say hello and have some good food with new friends.

The VT guys just don’t get it. The Stone Station food was probably much better. I can’t tell for sure since I wasn’t invited to taste the VT food. Some Kansas fans parked behind us and fired up a classic Webber grill. I was thinking they had the right idea. But then, they tossed whatever meat they had on the grill while the flames were still shooting 3 feet into the air less than foot from the gas tank on the rental car. I guess in Kansas they don’t wait for the charcoal to glow before cooking. Maybe they like their medium rare meat crunchy on the outside. I began to chuckle at all the tailgate novices. Stone Station is in a much higher division!

The intensity inside the stadium was great. The flyover was loud and caught many by surprise. I was wondering if they would have one since it was raining and 57 degrees. I remember CNU’s very first game in 2001 was to have a flyover; but the weather had other ideas. Yep, that’s right 57 degrees in Miami. It was damp cold and very windy. I was actually colder there than at the Stagg Bowl and I was equally prepped, if you know what I mean.

The one thing that I kept thinking while watching the crowds and fans and bands was, “this doesn’t mean anything.” It’s not a championship game. It’s not a game leading to a championship. In this game even the winner goes home without a championship. I was trying to imagine the atmosphere in this game if it were a regional championship, or if the winner went to play for the D-I title. Just put the 11 conference champs and 5 at large teams together and let them duke it out on the field. The computer formula geeks will find something else to do. The sponsors and TV contracts and alum wallets will follow. But that’s a different story.

One final note on my very random thought process on this blog. I was looking around the parking lot and at the game. I saw a lot of VT orange and maroon and a lot of Kansas blue. I didn’t see much else. At the Stagg Bowl I saw colors from Wesley, UMHB, UWW, MUC, CNU, Bridgewater, and even a Wabash flash. I saw dance teams walk by to chat and take pictures (thanks girls, my wife loved it!!), a marching band eating Stone Station “fixins”, and purple fans handing out purple liquid in syringes. I saw Wesley and Bridgewater QBs tossing the ball in the parking lot, competing as usual. The D3football.com guys came by to chat.

At the Orange Bowl I saw fans cook for themselves and a few friends and family, walk into the game, cheer, and walk out to get back to the hotel. The fan camaraderie wasn’t there like it is in D-III.

Through it all I enjoyed myself. I was with family — nieces, nephews, in-laws. My son was with me. I wore a VT hat and a Kansas shirt (my nephew is a Jayhawk). I’m sitting in the Hilton in West Palm Beach writing this, while my son snores during his nap, cellphone vibrating away. We spent the afternoon today driving away from an angry Rhino! No, I don’t have any purple liquid syringes from the Stagg Bowl in my room. We went to a Safari park and got between two females and the Alpha male. I laughed so hard, hearing my son taking pictures in the back seat and yelling, “Dad! Dad! Dad!”

And now the trip must end tomorrow. A final and painful plane ride waits. On the way down, I had a head cold. My left ear hasn’t unclogged yet. I had a fever during the game (that’s why I felt colder in Miami than I did in the rain in Salem), and as I write this tears are streaming from my left eye. I’m thinking I have a bad infection going on.

Or maybe I just miss my buddies Llamaguy, Skoaltrain and the rest of the gang!

11 thoughts on “Stagg Bowl vs. Orange Bowl

  1. And I’m sure nobody hauled 300 homemade Buckeyes in a cooler to share. (But how could I since I was teaching that day, but my son did sit an watch the Orange Bowl with me wearing the VT jersey we bought on our way home from the Stagg Bowl.)

  2. Great blog entry, 85!

    Thanks for helping put our tailgating into perspective with the “big guys” of D1. As someone coming from the Hokie Nation’s neck of the woods, I’ll take our D3 comaraderie and grub any day of the week.

  3. Great write up CNU. Where else besides D3 can get you park within sight of the field, tailgate up until gametime, walk the sidelines, and get in for less than $10. Not to mention all the other things you talk about. I have had the opportunity to see UVA and Tennessee play numerous times over the years. I will say that the experience was electric and fun but after the mile plus walk to the stadium and being packed in the upper deck like a sardine, one game a year is about all the fun I can stand. And oh yeah…. there was the time that the coed in front of me at the Tennessee / Syracuse game drank 14 little bottles of Jim Beam and puked all over the place. This was all before the end of the first half. There was no place to hide. Thankfully, the Vols won that day. Anyway….this is my long winded way of saying D3 ROCKS!!!

  4. Where else can you run to your car, change into dry clothes and share a little more tailgaiting at halftime? Not even a Mount Union home game without buying another ticket.

  5. Great post 85,

    I just sent a copy of it to some friends who are die hard VT and UVA fans. I love them to death, but they act just like the folks you saw at the Orange Bowl. I had a dream once of one of my kids playing D1 but DIII has been an expereince for all of us that we will cherish forever. That includes Averett’s 0-10 season this year. The people we have met from other schools (including out of confernce) were wonderful and I enjoyed our conversations. I, like 85 have been to a few D1 tailgates (VT, UVA, Richmond, James Madison). Makes no difference which one, there is an air about these folks that you won’t find in DIII. I am proud to be a DIII parent.

  6. mount union should move up a division even though they got beat. We all know who the better team is

  7. yep…it was Lion Country Safari.

    Hey one thing I forgot to mention. My son said that if we do a bowl game next year we should drive and bring a grill to properly tailgate. I was thinking if we go to a bowl game next year we bring Stone Station!!

  8. When comparing the Stagg and Orange – or for any of the BCS bowl games for that matter – I like the finality that comes with the Stagg. Year in and year out no question as to who the champ is at D3. With the BCS system, what is proved (other than the Big 10 is looking very, very, very overrated) with these games? – nothing!! We are left with speculation every year at the D1 level – would the true champ please stand up?

  9. I’m still convinced that if the NCAA came out and said, “here’s what we’re going to do” and set out a 16 team playoff (11 conference champs and 5 at large bids), the money would follow. The credibilty of D1 football would be greater than it is today. Here’s another way to look at it…….

    1. who won the Superbowl played in January 1970?
    2. who won the 1970 Sugar Bowl? Peach Bowl? Any Bowl?

    I bet most of you know that the Chiefs won that SB and that most of you don’t even know who played in any of those bowl games. Or, don’t even go back that far. Who won the SB in 2001? Rose Bowl?

    My point being – it’s easier to recall these things when they matter. The SB determines a champion. A bowl game determines nothing.

    LSU won a game yesterday. In my opinoin, they didn’t win a championship – just a game.

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